Our style of play

[baitman]

so we are now going to be the "new spain" with a false nine, and tika taka build up play.

i cannot see this being a smooth transition, and it might take a few seasons to become a smooth fit for some of the players.

i have seen several threads where there is mention of certain players being a better fit for this style. maybe others will need to be moved on.

Brendan Rodgers has said he realises that it isnt a short term fix to restore Liverpool to our former glory so it may take some time.

so maybe Andy Carroll doesnt fit in with the tika taka style. will the rest of the team make a seamless switch to this methodology. Should we keep AC to give us other options.

will our full backs give us the width we need as the front three might not give us the full width of the pitch. will this be a compromise to their defensive duties.

hopefully things will settle down soon and we come out with all guns blazing.
lets have it...

[BobTheCharmer]

my concern is that it works well for Barca because they have Messi to score the goals.

its works well for spain because they have quality players and they are obviously playing tournament knockout football where a draw after 90 isn't the end of the world.

if we ala swansea knock it about and knock it about and knock it about, will we offer enough to win enough games? the onus is on us to attack and win, especially at home. Throw in the oppositions knack of scoring with their one attack and we could have problems.

In the league I'd personally prefer we took the utd blueprint of attacking and throwing on more attackers when needed to get the wins. constant pressure around the box. bullying teams into submission. its worked fairly well for them over the last 25 years.

we'll have to see. its a shame we couldn't have waited a year to see what rodgers had in the locker for swansea's second season. he would have needed to develop a plan b. I still feel its too soon for him.

[yamiedo]

We have Suarez

[Tee]

I think there will be a game next season when we don't play with a traditional forward. A false 9...Gerrrad IMO.

[Vermilion]

We have Suarez

This is what worries me when i hear things like 'it's going to take some time' , how long will he hang around without winning things ?

Then again, no player is bigger than the club, and we'd just have to trust BR to find a quality replacement.

[yamiedo]

This is what worries me when i hear things like 'it's going to take some time' , how long will he hang around without winning things ?

1-2 years then we have Sterling and Suso breaking through the ranks

[Vermilion]

1-2 years then we have Sterling and Suso breaking through the ranks

Will we though ? One will be back in london and the other is Spain knowing our luck.

[baitman]

some of our existing players might not fit the model, and it might be too soon for some of the promising youngsters.
this means getting in a few short to medium term replacements.

lets hope that the best of our young talent doesn't get disenchanted while waiting, can be given some game time so they believe they are a valid part of our future, and can be secured on long term contracts asap.

[danperkins]

Interesting thread.

Obviously i'd love us to hit the ground running but with:

- A new manager
- Players away at the Euros
- New signings not having long to bed in
- Team trying to adjust to a different style of play
(Admittedly the right way to play the game of football, but a big adjustment for our players)

My feeling on it is that we might start quite slow, and with our fixture list in first 5-6 games which is ****ing typical!! The above factors & i think Suarez missing opening games/s it really is a ******* of a start to Rogers managerial career at LFC.

I am going to have patience which i'm not really known for but if he can get us playing the game the way it should be played, get the right players in & the wrong players out, over time he could bring us back to where we want to be. But i have no doubts this won't happen over night, and i'm willing to cut the guy some slack as we are in need of a serious overhaul and it's a poxy uphill task for any manager to come into. So i'll try not to be a moany git if we lose the first few

I'm excited to see us play under Rogers, bit nervous and worried obviously but after watching us fumble about last season, running around like headless chickens with absolutely no game plan whatsoever i'm hoping that all Rogers talk will have us playing a lovely footballing method with high intensity pressure. Could very well be a joy to watch & hopefully over time the results start to come with that.

Even forgetting that he is managing LFC, you always want a guy like Rogers with his footballing philosophy to succeed. He is good for the game & hopefully good for our club.

[gentingfrmhell]

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[BrooklynRed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DThjb...layer_embedded

Uhhhh.... off to find my kid a new sport to play. That skill is crazy for that age. yikes.

[el matador]

my concern is that it works well for Barca because they have Messi to score the goals.

its works well for spain because they have quality players and they are obviously playing tournament knockout football where a draw after 90 isn't the end of the world.

if we ala swansea knock it about and knock it about and knock it about, will we offer enough to win enough games? the onus is on us to attack and win, especially at home. Throw in the oppositions knack of scoring with their one attack and we could have problems.

In the league I'd personally prefer we took the utd blueprint of attacking and throwing on more attackers when needed to get the wins. constant pressure around the box. bullying teams into submission. its worked fairly well for them over the last 25 years.

we'll have to see. its a shame we couldn't have waited a year to see what rodgers had in the locker for swansea's second season. he would have needed to develop a plan b. I still feel its too soon for him.

thats why it works otherwise you just have a few players popping the ball about side to side waiting for something to happen. My guess is that the messi type player who can made the make the system work for rodgers was sigurdsson.

he arrives late in the box onto the end of crosses and through balls so they do have some penetration. But we all know that the longer you keep the ball the more time the opposition has to recover their shape and close the gaps.

I love watching barca and spain but they have the players to make this work. Suarez might now become the messi type figure because he can drift past players in tight spaces and get his shot off.

But we do need others because as weve seen with barca if messi doesnt do it they can struggle at times to break teams down. I also think we might be caught out on the counter a few times until the players get used to the passing rythms required.

[danperkins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DThjb...layer_embedded

their all so tiny, brilliant though.

They play better than we do at the moment!

[baitman]

http://blog.3four3.com/

fantastic video. the take down at 1.15 by the number 8 [right winger] was sublime, and the number 10 [centre forward/false nine] is the new messi

if we press teams like that then im in heaven.
the running off the ball, lack of 30-40 yard passes that often result in losing possession, the work rate ethic, always making players available for a pass and support of the guy carrying the ball... all great stuff

[el matador]

apparently that was arsenals usa academy team.