Our style of play

[Vermilion]

1.10 in the little No 8 on the wing pulls the ball out the air like it's stuck to his foot.

[Tee]

Yeh but those little ****ers are too lightweight and wouldn't last a minute in the physical PL.

[baitman]

Yeh but those little ****ers are too lightweight and wouldn't last a minute in the physical PL.

crushed like ants

[paulg]

Let's see 'em on a rainy January, away to Stoke. Eh? EH? :grin:

[baitman]

the zippy passing game, with less walloping up field and speculative crosses, players making the runs so they can receive a pass and others running off to create alternatives. keeping possession, and moving the ball forward, even if it has to temporarily go sideways or backwards, so long as you keep the other team frustrated.

this must be the way forward. have the opposition chasing shadows.

its all good showing the squad a few videos, and moving some coloured counters around on a magnetic white board. see how those young under 11s move it around. once they are in their 20s they will have been playing like that for years, and it becomes automatic

will the players soak it up. can it become natural and fluid for them.

[baitman]

wingers.
we all consider that wingers will zip down the wing, get to the by line and get the ball into the box, either on the ground or in the air, for a target man to smash in to the goal. the variations could be get to the by line, then cutting the ball back, or getting to the by line but then turning onto the other foot and coming inside.


i dont think that brendinhio's vision will rely on wingers as we once knew it. i think it will be tika taka midget ninja's cutting in from the flanks. no more "crosses into the box" from out wide. kind of like an inside forward. there may be some overlap from the defenders, who might be utilised more like a wing back, but this is a risky business with players becoming spent, and also being unable to get back and cover should the attack break down and we lose possession.

[red g]

wingers.
we all consider that wingers will zip down the wing, get to the by line and get the ball into the box, either on the ground or in the air, for a target man to smash in to the goal. the variations could be get to the by line, then cutting the ball back, or getting to the by line but then turning onto the other foot and coming inside.


i dont think that brendinhio's vision will rely on wingers as we once knew it. i think it will be tika taka midget ninja's cutting in from the flanks. no more "crosses into the box" from out wide. kind of like an inside forward. there may be some overlap from the defenders, who might be utilised more like a wing back, but this is a risky business with players becoming spent, and also being unable to get back and cover should the attack break down and we lose possession.

[el matador]

I am looking forward to seeing which formation he employs. He used a 433 at swansea and I want to know what system he will be using.

Will it be an orthodox 433 with three interchangeable forwards or a 4231 with one behind the front man and two inside wide players.

[dww]

I don't think the traditional lists of numbers are particularly suited to describing the sorts of formations employed by Spain, Barcelona or indeed Swansea. Beyond the selection of a back 4 or 3 a lot of the time the distinction has very little meaning when players take positions relative to the space or the other players rather than rigidly adhering to a formation Hodgson style.

Del Bosque kept claiming that all the teams he used at the Euros were 4-3-3 which was to some extent true but says nothing about the many differences in how it was deployed or what the tactics actually were for each match.

[badpiggy]

How did Swansea defend set pieces- zonal or man to man or a mix?

[baitman]

talking of defending...
when we play a 4,3,3, and we are defending, do the two "wide" forwards drop back, so making it a 4,5,1.

[el matador]

I don't think the traditional lists of numbers are particularly suited to describing the sorts of formations employed by Spain, Barcelona or indeed Swansea. Beyond the selection of a back 4 or 3 a lot of the time the distinction has very little meaning when players take positions relative to the space or the other players rather than rigidly adhering to a formation Hodgson style.

Del Bosque kept claiming that all the teams he used at the Euros were 4-3-3 which was to some extent true but says nothing about the many differences in how it was deployed or what the tactics actually were for each match.

i know he used both 433 and 4231 at swansea to good effect. 4231 for me is an obvious one for what we've got.

433 isnt as straight forward.

[dww]

How did Swansea defend set pieces- zonal or man to man or a mix?

These comments indicate zonal:

http://www.swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=265057

[baitman]

just watching spain vs. japan at the olympics. not much penetration from spain.


i know why spain are successful... they dont play in a league.

they play this tika taka stuff, keep possession, bore teams into coming out at them, cos the other team needs to score, then exploit the space.
this might be great in knock pout competition, but will it work against teams that park the bus, like the chavs vs. barca.

if it doesnt click for us... where do we go from this system

[sinbad]

just watching spain vs. japan at the olympics. not much penetration from spain.


i know why spain are successful... they dont play in a league.

they play this tika taka stuff, keep possession, bore teams into coming out at them, cos the other team needs to score, then exploit the space.
this might be great in knock pout competition, but will it work against teams that park the bus, like the chavs vs. barca.

if it doesnt click for us... where do we go from this system

The chavs got lucky that time. i think it was 92% possession and 35 missed chances to Barca.