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    Originally posted by banditos View Post
    I wasn't that good either . At least I didn't ruin a promising footballing career.

    Back on topic, my main concern with keeping Sturridge is that it may mean we wouldn't be able to afford a top striker who can actually play regularly. It's not as if we have owners who are happy to piss away their money on player wages like City, Chavs and United do.
    I said previously, I would like to keep Sturridge but only as an added extra!

    Not someone to rely on, not someone to build a team round, but someone who if he was fit would provide goals.

    Is he on about 150k a week? 7.5 million a year? he wont get much in appearance money either for the price of a Rudy Gestede he has to be worth keeping.
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    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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      I would keep him.
      If he got a run of games, he would be banging the goals in. He has that unpredictability, and hopefully most of his injury problems are behind him. Selling him for 15-20m would be madness - much rather keep him

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        Originally posted by dww View Post
        If I thought they were comparable talent-wise I would be inclined to agree. We have seen that Sturridge 'still has it' and was always the better player. We have no idea how good Ings will be when he comes back. Personally I would look to loan him out next season in the hope he becomes either a more saleable asset or a better bet within the squad.

        I just don't think there are many viable options with Sturridge's performance ceiling on the market. I think if we get another pacy attacking player (ideally in the mould of Mane who can also add width) then we would have a viable set of options without changing style with or without Sturridge.
        Agree about potential performance level, but with his record the last 3 seasons I just don't think we can afford the risk of the next one not being similar. It's simply to expensive having him running around potentially missing another ~30 games. Yes we might go down in level, but if it's available for most of the games that is way better in my book.

        Loaning him out is a risk, he only has 1 year on his contract when coming back, so might not get the money we'd ideally want for him.

        I like Sturridge as a player, I just think we need to have someone more reliable as striker in the team.

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          If we do sell him, I hope it is to Europe, because the potential for him to tear it up in the PL definitely exists.

          Which begs the question, should we sell him?

          It is definitely a tricky one.
          Modifying post.

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            Is there a record of any player successfully overcoming an injury crisis as bad as his? I can't think of anyone to be honest. Whoever signs him will likely have a 5 goal-per-season striker with huge wages that's mostly injured, whether it's us, our League rivals or some club abroad.

            I'd still wait to see how his pre-season goes though. If he can somehow miraculously stay fit for the majority of next season, we've got a world class striker on our hands again.

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              Originally posted by Daffy Duck View Post
              Is there a record of any player successfully overcoming an injury crisis as bad as his? I can't think of anyone to be honest. Whoever signs him will likely have a 5 goal-per-season striker with huge wages that's mostly injured, whether it's us, our League rivals or some club abroad.

              I'd still wait to see how his pre-season goes though. If he can somehow miraculously stay fit for the majority of next season, we've got a world class striker on our hands again.
              Not sure about that. Are all sturridges problems muscular??? He might thrive in a different league.

              I watched Torres in the second leg semi final against Real Madrid last week and I thought that he looked a lot sharper than I had seen him ever play for Chelsea - but I haven't seen him play for a while and I think that he doesn't play every game now either.

              Similarly, anyone who watched Falcao play in the CL for Monaco this seaon will have been wondering if this was the same guy who looked like a broken human being when sometimes hobbling onto the Man United or Chelsea bench.

              So with Sturridge, I wonder would a move to France, Spain or Italy do his career good? I wouldn't be surprised for our fans to be complaining about it if and when he is cooking on gas in another environment but I just wonder if the football that Klopp wants to play just physically beyond the guy.....

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                Originally posted by Daffy Duck View Post
                Is there a record of any player successfully overcoming an injury crisis as bad as his? I can't think of anyone to be honest. Whoever signs him will likely have a 5 goal-per-season striker with huge wages that's mostly injured, whether it's us, our League rivals or some club abroad.

                I'd still wait to see how his pre-season goes though. If he can somehow miraculously stay fit for the majority of next season, we've got a world class striker on our hands again.
                Ronaldo came back from a pretty bad knee injury as did Shearer and van Nistelrooy but Sturridge's problems don't seem to have been identified - he has so many issues i dont think he'll ever see a season through. I'd be inclined to put Ings and Henderson in the same bracket.

                I guess we just have to trust the club who'll have all the data to hand and whatever call they make would you thought be the right one.

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                  Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                  ...but Sturridge's problems don't seem to have been identified - he has so many issues i dont think he'll ever see a season through.
                  once he goes to london and he can swan about wearing an edgy bang on trend hat and swank about with the other art lovers he will feel much better about himself.
                  he might be less likely to stub his toe on his hoover while hes doing a video selfie of his daft dancing too.
                  removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                  too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                    Originally posted by baitman View Post
                    once he goes to london and he can swan about wearing an edgy bang on trend hat and swank about with the other art lovers he will feel much better about himself.
                    he might be less likely to stub his toe on his hoover while hes doing a video selfie of his daft dancing too.
                    The Tate is wasted on you.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                      The Tate is wasted on you.
                      yeh, i wouldnt know art from a patio base

                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        TBF if Klopp plays a diamond - He can get the press and leave Sturridge on the shoulder

                        Many ways to skin a bear - Need to find one thats right for Sturridge

                        However - His pace has well and truly gone
                        I make no apologies, this is me

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                          It all comes down to where we think he is fitness-wise, a fully fit Sturridge who we think could realistically play 90%+ of our games next season (and beyond) we'd definately want to keep but presumably we'd have a price that if someone offered we'd let him go (everyone has their price). If we thought that his fitness means he's unlikely to pay more than 20% of games we'd probably look to get rid, but we'd probably value him less, presumably there is some kind of sliding scale between the two and if someone offers in excess of that we will sell him.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            Originally posted by banditos View Post
                            We're talking about a guy who has only been available for 45 league games over the last 3 seasons due to a multitude of soft tissue injuries. Due to these he has clearly lost the searing pace that made him such a goal threat (just as Torres and Owen did).

                            A single goal against a poor Hammers side doesn't change anything for me. 2013-2014 Sturridge would justify the wage he's on, but he'll never get back there. Best to move him on and use the wage on an improvement who can be relied upon to be regularly available.

                            This, especially the pace thing. He'll never be as good again which is the bottom line for me.

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                              Originally posted by Deano View Post
                              TBF if Klopp plays a diamond - He can get the press and leave Sturridge on the shoulder

                              Many ways to skin a bear - Need to find one thats right for Sturridge

                              However - His pace has well and truly gone
                              I bet Klopp wishes he'd though of that, have you tweeted him to let him know?

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                                After the Boro game.....Sturridge: on if he'll be at LFC next season: "That is for the club to decide, for myself I am enjoying my football.There is nothing to discuss really. I have 2 years left on my deal and I am happy here
                                I'd have liked to have played more but I'm grateful to the club for the opportunities & Klopp has been really nice to me."

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