We have barely kept any clean sheets all season, even before Matip got injured.
Only Burnley and Sheffield Utd have failed to score against us.
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In the past we would have beat Brighton by a routine 4 goals to nil. I’ll be annoyed if they score at Anfield on Satdee.
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Lovren has been pretty decent, but we have failed to get a cleansheet since Matip got injured.
Not sure Lovren has been to blame in any way, but we are defintely more leaky this season.
Are we more sloppy in our clearences, or pushing on further, or just unlucky?
Either way, I dont think it has adversely affected our season so far.
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Originally posted by DeeTheDog View PostI think one of the biggest compliments we pay Virgil is that any of his CB partners have played well alongside him. Lovren played well alongside Virgil when he first joined culminating in an excellent performance in the Champs league final against Ronaldo.
After Lovren played late into the World Cup it was Gomez who started in front on him at the start of the following season and we probably looked stronger than we ever looked at the back before his unfortunate injury at Burnley. Lovren came back but was injured shortly after, resulting in much teeth gnashing as we had to turn to our 4th choice centre back.
Matip as we know, was excellent and helped us finish with our highest point total ever and Champions of Europe. Unfortunately, he is injured again and Lovren is Virgil's partner and I have no doubt he will continue to perform well alongside him.
Good post.
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How does specifically naming Lovren sound like a statement about CB's in general?Originally posted by SB View PostLovren is a 30 year old centre half who literally has one job, defend.
It sounded like thats exactly what you were saying.
Ok, that was a bit of dramatic license from me in saying 'literally', but I've already explained what I meant in the rest of my post that you've quoted.Last edited by Mark79; 25-11-19, 06:46 PM.
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Originally posted by DeeTheDog View PostI think one of the biggest compliments we pay Virgil is that any of his CB partners have played well alongside him. Lovren played well alongside Virgil when he first joined culminating in an excellent performance in the Champs league final against Ronaldo.
After Lovren played late into the World Cup it was Gomez who started in front on him at the start of the following season and we probably looked stronger than we ever looked at the back before his unfortunate injury at Burnley. Lovren came back but was injured shortly after, resulting in much teeth gnashing as we had to turn to our 4th choice centre back.
Matip as we know, was excellent and helped us finish with our highest point total ever and Champions of Europe. Unfortunately, he is injured again and Lovren is Virgil's partner and I have no doubt he will continue to perform well alongside him.
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Anyone who bore witness to Jones and Maguire 'defending' yesterday for ManU should appreciate how lucky we are to have the likes of Lovren, Matip and Gomez able to step in and partner VVD.
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I think one of the biggest compliments we pay Virgil is that any of his CB partners have played well alongside him. Lovren played well alongside Virgil when he first joined culminating in an excellent performance in the Champs league final against Ronaldo.
After Lovren played late into the World Cup it was Gomez who started in front on him at the start of the following season and we probably looked stronger than we ever looked at the back before his unfortunate injury at Burnley. Lovren came back but was injured shortly after, resulting in much teeth gnashing as we had to turn to our 4th choice centre back.
Matip as we know, was excellent and helped us finish with our highest point total ever and Champions of Europe. Unfortunately, he is injured again and Lovren is Virgil's partner and I have no doubt he will continue to perform well alongside him.
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Lovren is a 30 year old centre half who literally has one job, defend.Originally posted by Pepe79 View PostI didn’t say that CB’s only have one job to do. I was making a specific comparison between 2 players. All Lovren has to do for people to be content with his performance is do the basics and not cock up. TAA, at 21, is already held to much higher standard and has much more expected of him than just being solid at the back.
It sounded like thats exactly what you were saying.
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Lovren has improved under Klopp and I'd rather judge him based on his improved state than his previous unease in the first team.
He was excellent against Palace and has been excellent so far this season.
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For flocks sake, will ewe stop bleating about the bush and ram this guy into the reserves, buying a better defender wont fleece us, stop bitching like a herd of wools.
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