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    For me his overhead kick in the first half more than cancels out the mistake for their first

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      Just don't understand his positioning. Who's in charge of the line? Him or VvD? If, as we suspect, it's VvD why is he not following simple instructions?

      Hendo lambasting him in another incident was indicative of what he causes. How we didn't concede a penalty in the first few minutes I'll never know. If that was a league an Englishman would have gone down like a sack of heavy **** and another honest ref mistake would have seen us on the back foot from the off.

      Him and Moreno are from the same gene pool. Can't fight your DNA.
      One tit for another.

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        Ach, he's just not good enough. There was a few instances early in the game. VVD dominated Dzeko early, great. Then interestingly around the 20min mark he went to win the ball from him but read the flight of the ball and moved off him thus not exposing himself Lovren (and Gomez for that matter) don't have that ability in them. Lovren thinks, to me anyway, that he thinks he can win everything but no one can. VVD however can read the percentages.

        We need another saavy CB if we want to be League winners.

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          Originally posted by labourRed View Post
          Ach, he's just not good enough. There was a few instances early in the game. VVD dominated Dzeko early, great. Then interestingly around the 20min mark he went to win the ball from him but read the flight of the ball and moved off him thus not exposing himself Lovren (and Gomez for that matter) don't have that ability in them. Lovren thinks, to me anyway, that he thinks he can win everything but no one can. VVD however can read the percentages.

          We need another saavy CB if we want to be League winners.
          i remember seeing robbie fowler doing that and it was such genius.
          he backed towards the defender and as the defender jumped to win the ball fowler stepped forward about 4-5 yards and just collected the ball as it fell off the defenders head. pure genius.
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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            Originally posted by Tee View Post
            Lovren making a gaff just isn’t surprising anymore. It’s more a relief when we get through a game and he doesn’t make a mistake. He could be such a great CB if he managed to get these mad moments out of his system. That said I would start him next week lol


            Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
            For me his overhead kick in the first half more than cancels out the mistake for their first
            It's a fair point really
            Like blood on iron

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              The Liverpool manager added: “The boys played a brilliant game over a very long period. Even the last minutes, when we conceded, Dejan Lovren was outstandingly good and this ball he misjudged – that is no problem if the full-back is in the right position. We made one mistake and the ref made one mistake and that was two goals for them. We take the penalty.
              Are we winning?

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                ****in arsehole

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                  Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                  The Liverpool manager added: “The boys played a brilliant game over a very long period. Even the last minutes, when we conceded, Dejan Lovren was outstandingly good and this ball he misjudged – that is no problem if the full-back is in the right position. We made one mistake and the ref made one mistake and that was two goals for them. We take the penalty.
                  Hmmmmm I suspect that if we had other options then klopp wouldn't be trying to keep his head up.

                  Let's win #6....... Then tell him to **** off

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                    Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
                    Hmmmmm I suspect that if we had other options then klopp wouldn't be trying to keep his head up.

                    Let's win #6....... Then tell him to **** off
                    He is right though.
                    Are we winning?

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                      Switched off massively once we’d gone 5 up, he wasn’t the only one as the entire team did but yet again through a lack of concentration he cost us a goal; frustrating to say the least.

                      His biggest problem is what lies between his ears and that I don’t think that’s going to change.

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                        Originally posted by RichC View Post
                        Switched off massively once we’d gone 5 up, he wasn’t the only one as the entire team did but yet again through a lack of concentration he cost us a goal; frustrating to say the least.

                        His biggest problem is what lies between his ears and that I don’t think that’s going to change.
                        The annoying thing is that his mistakes lead to goals.

                        He got away with one minutes before when he tackled the ball straight into the forward and it ricocheted wide, so it wasn’t his only mistake, the signs were there.

                        All defenders will make mistakes, but his seem so avoidable.

                        We needed to take a time out at 5 and regroup. It is Kloppps one (minor) Achilles heel. The thing is, if he had that mentality in any way I’m not sure we’d ever be 5 up.
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                          Originally posted by RichC View Post
                          Switched off massively once we’d gone 5 up, he wasn’t the only one as the entire team did but yet again through a lack of concentration he cost us a goal; frustrating to say the least.

                          His biggest problem is what lies between his ears and that I don’t think that’s going to change.
                          I think that lack of concentration is systemic in our team and the reason why I'm still not 100% confident we will be able to control the game in Rome. All it needs is 15 minutes of madness and we're done.
                          Are we winning?

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                            Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                            I think that lack of concentration is systemic in our team and the reason why I'm still not 100% confident we will be able to control the game in Rome. All it needs is 15 minutes of madness and we're done.
                            We manage to do it fine away at City. I dont see us losing 3-0, plus we aren’t good or arrogant enough to be complacent.

                            I wonder if fatigue plays a part also? We are an incredibly fit team, but when we play like we did last night the tempo is unsustainable. We then need someone to put their foot on the ball.

                            If we could bring in a midfielder who could assist with tempo and take the sting out of the game that would help, but we don’t have anyone.
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                              Poor TAA getting the fake blame from Klopp so we can keep Lovren's head up for the remaining games. TAA was in perfect line with VvD, listening to instructions. Lovren broke the line leaving himself to fall on his sword or pull it out of the fire. He fell on it and hurt us too.
                              One tit for another.

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                                He has replaced Skrtel hasn’t he? Except Dan doesn’t rate him

                                Capable of good play but error prone.

                                He missed a sitter last night also.
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