Harvey Elliott

[BobTheCharmer]

Good player but I just don't see anywhere in the team where he could be a starter. For the sake of his own career he needs to instigate a move this summer otherwise he'll stagnate.

[Harv]

Just not set up for him to flourish, clearly got talent, played some great little one-twos and others just don't seem to be on the same wavelength tbh. Lots of these players are still in default Klopp mode when going forward.

Has a tendency to go missing for large portions of the game too, which you just cant afford to have in our side.

Think he'll definitely be off

[Charly]

5 assists and 1 goal in that run of games.



I'm pointing out he wasn't a first choice last season, what's comparative output with Dom and Macca got to do with it?

He ended tbe season as first choice, and was there on merit which was my original point.

[Mark79]

And got 6 assists and 3 goals. How did that compare to Dom and Macca?

5 assists and 1 goal in that run of games.

I'm pointing out he wasn't a first choice last season, what's comparative output with Dom and Macca got to do with it?

[Charly]

Elliott was only a 1st choice in cup competitions last season. He only started regularly in the league in the last month of the season, after the wheels had come off our title challenge. He made 11 starts in the PL last season, 5 of them coming in our last 6 PL games.

And got 6 assists and 3 goals. How did that compare to Dom and Macca?

[Mark79]

That last bit is inaccurate. He was first choice in Klopp's team last year on merrit, and was outperforming Henderson the previous year. I think he had the bad injury the year before . He was Blackburns player if the year there at 17.

He has played less than 200 minutes in 14 league games this season. He hasnt really been given a chance until today, and he stacked the team with fringe players.

He has been better in the champions league too, playing in stronger sides.

He may not be suited to a Slot team, but I dont think he has been given a chance really. There have been multiple games where Dom has been way off and Elliott would have been a good plan b, but Slot has chosen to go a different way.

I think he is one of two players who can put dangerous balls into the box, and Trent is leaving. If Elliott goes I think this a priority for us (maybe Macca could do this in a more advanced role).

Elliott was only a 1st choice in cup competitions last season. He only started regularly in the league in the last month of the season, after the wheels had come off our title challenge. He made 11 starts in the PL last season, 5 of them coming in our last 6 PL games.

[Charly]

Pains me to say this as I’ve always been a massive fan of Harvey but I’m not sure if he’s going to make it here anymore. While he’s had an impact off the bench every start he’s had he just doesn’t take advantage. And while some have come in weaker teams he’s still not shown enough. And it’s not really just this season.

That last bit is inaccurate. He was first choice in Klopp's team last year on merrit, and was outperforming Henderson the previous year. I think he had the bad injury the year before . He was Blackburns player if the year there at 17.

He has played less than 200 minutes in 14 league games this season. He hasnt really been given a chance until today, and he stacked the team with fringe players.

He has been better in the champions league too, playing in stronger sides.

He may not be suited to a Slot team, but I dont think he has been given a chance really. There have been multiple games where Dom has been way off and Elliott would have been a good plan b, but Slot has chosen to go a different way.

I think he is one of two players who can put dangerous balls into the box, and Trent is leaving. If Elliott goes I think this a priority for us (maybe Macca could do this in a more advanced role).

[Paul12]

think he'll do really well but sadly i dont think it'll be here

[ric.williams]

think he'll do really well but sadly i dont think it'll be here

[danperkins]

It’s clear he’s never going to be a first 11 player under Slot. He wants mega-presser in the most advanced midfield position, it’s why he loves Dom. Harvey doesn’t have the pace to play that game even though he has the engine.

And he’s not a forward.

His stock is high, it might be worth cashing in on him even though it’ll be a shame him going.

[Rich]

It’s clear he’s never going to be a first 11 player under Slot. He wants mega-presser in the most advanced midfield position, it’s why he loves Dom. Harvey doesn’t have the pace to play that game even though he has the engine.

And he’s not a forward.

His stock is high, it might be worth cashing in on him even though it’ll be a shame him going.

[peterbread]

Pains me to say this as I’ve always been a massive fan of Harvey but I’m not sure if he’s going to make it here anymore. While he’s had an impact off the bench every start he’s had he just doesn’t take advantage. And while some have come in weaker teams he’s still not shown enough. And it’s not really just this season.

I don’t know where he fits in. Not enough pace for the wide role and probably not physically strong enough for a central role when it comes to the defensive side especially.

Maybe he can play the impact sub role if he’s happy but with the quality needed to keep winning at the top level I don’t think he’s got it now. He’s still young but how much better is he now than he was 2 years ago? Is he still progressing enough? I want him to make it but I’m starting to change my thoughts on him.

And when you see links to someone like Morgan Rogers who’s a year older but might fit better and is able to play the wide and central role more effectively the age thing starts to go out the window. He’s not really a young player and should be further along in his development. Klopp seemed to have the same issues, where does he fit into the team.

[baitman]

I wonder whether his best position is the advanced midfielder against a low block defence...he has plenty of cheeky passes in him, and that's probably what's needed against such teams.

As a 10, in a 4 2 3 1 would be his best position,

[Paul12]

I wonder whether his best position is the advanced midfielder against a low block defence...he has plenty of cheeky passes in him, and that's probably what's needed against such teams.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He won’t get any quicker unfortunately so my hope for him is that he becomes a Mata-ish 10. If he can make up for his lack of pace with his passing, shooting and decision-making then he can have a great future with us.

Think with enough game time, there may well be that kind of player in him. A Mata or David Silva style of player.

Have no idea if he could reach the level of either in their prime, but he certainly looks to have it in him to bring similar qualities as those two.


Do think his decision making is already pretty good and what sometimes lets him down is the lack of movement through the central channels of our final third.

Against Newcastle he moved in a lot and you could see him looking for a run to play the ball of front of again and again, but then having to check back and pass sideways when there was no movement.

Chiesa then started making runs and Elliot went looking for him and we all saw what happened there. A clever top class player making smart runs and a switched on creative player reading the play.


I reckon Elliot is unlucky in a few ways but not least in that at present he could be upgraded upon without a massive outlay being needed. No fault of his own on that score as he is a young player still developing and probably a couple years off really hitting his stride.


Still would not look to sell him though unless a really silly offer came in. He is too useful as a utility sub at present and has a damn fine g/a return for the little time he gets on the pitch.