Dominik Szoboszlai

[BigChief]

Very much the same.

I appreciate his hard work but his numbers for a number ten need to be better.

Elliott had a great run at the end of last season picking up assists and breaking teams down. Definitely needs more minutes. You’d lose Dom’s athleticism but Elliott is better at opening teams up.

Both are super fit regardless. No harm in trying Elliot more. Szob started his career as a shot specialist and now can't hit the target.

[BG1973]

Is he a 10 though?

Isn't he just part of a 3 man midfield that destructs and creates a lot like Gini, Henderson and Fabinho. None of them were 10s and none scored many goals. The forwards did like they do now.

I think he's great and huge part of why we're top of the league and unbeaten in CL.

[Pablo]

He's an attacking midfielder, playing behind the front three. Whether that makes him a 10 or not I'm not sure. I'm crap at tactics.

Either way he should be more prolific. There were times yesterday where I think Harvey would have got a shot off and instead Dom hesitated. I think it could just be a confidence thing, but it has been going on a long time.

I think Palmer would eat up the goals for us for example (not a realistic signing I know).

[Lee]

Both are super fit regardless. No harm in trying Elliot more. Szob started his career as a shot specialist and now can't hit the target.

That’s fair. I think Szob can cover more ground quicker and is more effective with the dirty work but that’s no slight on Elliott and there probably isn’t much in it. When we have most of the possession anyway we can probably afford to trade off what each brings to the team and play Elliott more.

Is he a 10 though?

Isn't he just part of a 3 man midfield that destructs and creates a lot like Gini, Henderson and Fabinho. None of them were 10s and none scored many goals. The forwards did like they do now.

I think he's great and huge part of why we're top of the league and unbeaten in CL.

Don’t really disagree and he is definitely a contributor as to why we’re top, but like Pablo first mentioned, his numbers should be better.

He’s definitely playing as a 10 this season whereas he was part of a midfield three like the one you describe last year.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He's an attacking midfielder, playing behind the front three. Whether that makes him a 10 or not I'm not sure. I'm crap at tactics.

Either way he should be more prolific. There were times yesterday where I think Harvey would have got a shot off and instead Dom hesitated. I think it could just be a confidence thing, but it has been going on a long time.

I think Palmer would eat up the goals for us for example (not a realistic signing I know).

He might but then we might also lose the hard running and covering done by that position that leads to the ball being won ( or not lost ) that in turn leads to the ball getting back into the other team's final third.


Palmer's defensive numbers and tracking back numbers are dwarfed by those of Szobo along with Szobo being a far better recycler of the ball than Palmer.

So stands to reason that Palmer would score more than Szobo in our team, but he might not score as much as he does with Chelsea as we would be defensively weaker with Palmer in place of Szobo.

Think if we wanted to have a Palmer type attacking midfielder in our team then we would need a more defensively pro active (during transitions of play against us) right flank, certainly a more traditional and more mobile right back.

Palmer would, imo of course, almost need the same level of cover and freedom that we have set our team up to give Salah.

[Pablo]

He might but then we might also lose the hard running and covering done by that position that leads to the ball being won ( or not lost ) that in turn leads to the ball getting back into the other team's final third.


Palmer's defensive numbers and tracking back numbers are dwarfed by those of Szobo along with Szobo being a far better recycler of the ball than Palmer.

So stands to reason that Palmer would score more than Szobo in our team, but he might not score as much as he does with Chelsea as we would be defensively weaker with Palmer in place of Szobo.

Think if we wanted to have a Palmer type attacking midfielder in our team then we would need a more defensively pro active (during transitions of play against us) right flank, certainly a more traditional and more mobile right back.

Palmer would, imo of course, almost need the same level of cover and freedom that we have set our team up to give Salah.

Yep, all good points. I think there is a middle ground there somewhere. I still think it's a possible area of improvement for us. That might just be working on Szobo's confidence and his shooting/finishing, rather than bringing someone else in. We certainly have other areas of the team I'd prioritise improving.

[rudedog]

He’s not a 10, he’s an 8 same as Alexis

Neither are much of a goal threat but not scoring goals hasn’t been our issue of late. If we are looking for areas to improve then not conceding from 50% of the shots we face would be the place to start.

[Charly]

lol... never clear what numbers mean. He is playing AMC. Macca and Grav are playing DMC/MC depending om how you view it.

Id say AMC is where Ellioit would best sit. Against teams sitting deep, you dont need to agressive press Dom brings. And Elliott pressing stats were still pretty good under Klopp. Doesnt have the same physique, but still works hard.

[Sus]

lol... never clear what numbers mean. He is playing AMC. Macca and Grav are playing DMC/MC depending om how you view it.

Id say AMC is where Ellioit would best sit. Against teams sitting deep, you dont need to agressive press Dom brings. And Elliott pressing stats were still pretty good under Klopp. Doesnt have the same physique, but still works hard.

I agree with this, think Elliott can unlock deep lying defences in a way that few of our other players can.

Szob covers our right hand side with Trent pretty well usually, and I imagine that's why he's so popular with Slot. If Bradley was there instead, that might be less important

[Lee]

He’s not a 10, he’s an 8 same as Alexis

Neither are much of a goal threat but not scoring goals hasn’t been our issue of late. If we are looking for areas to improve then not conceding from 50% of the shots we face would be the place to start.

8 or 10 he still plays much further forward (or certainly starts further forward) than Mac Allister and Gravenberch.

Not sticking the boot in (and I didn’t read Pablo’s post in that way either), but I don’t think we’re being greedy by wanting better numbers. There were a couple of games in December - United being one - where we had great chances to score and his shooting and decision making were well off.

Happens to all players so we’re not digging him out but he could / should be touching double digits on both goals and assists. Gakpo, Diaz and Jota when fit chip in but we’re still too reliant on Mo so another forward amongst the goals would be handy.

I do also fully agree about your point about conceding fewer goals.

[Norbs]

8 or 10 he still plays much further forward (or certainly starts further forward) than Mac Allister and Gravenberch.

Not sticking the boot in (and I didn’t read Pablo’s post in that way either), but I don’t think we’re being greedy by wanting better numbers. There were a couple of games in December - United being one - where we had great chances to score and his shooting and decision making were well off.

Happens to all players so we’re not digging him out but he could / should be touching double digits on both goals and assists. Gakpo, Diaz and Jota when fit chip in but we’re still too reliant on Mo so another forward amongst the goals would be handy.

I do also fully agree about your point about conceding fewer goals.

Sicking in my mouth as I say this, but imagine if we had Bruno Fernandez in our midfield

Please forgive me, it's late

[SB]

Ffs give yourself an uppercut lad.

[Lee]

Sicking in my mouth as I say this, but imagine if we had Bruno Fernandez in our midfield

Please forgive me, it's late

Sorry mate I ain’t forgiving you for that suggestion.

[Angryred]

Sicking in my mouth as I say this, but imagine if we had Bruno Fernandez in our midfield

Please forgive me, it's late

Sorry pal, that's a contender for worst post of the year so far & we are only in mid Jan!!!

[rudedog]

Sicking in my mouth as I say this, but imagine if we had Bruno Fernandez in our midfield

Please forgive me, it's late

He’s a **** and not good enough. He downs tools when things get tough

He’s the opposite of the type of player I would want at the club