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    Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
    Do you know what. All this, the situation we're in, the way everything has gone so wrong after going so right has saddened me. Everyone calling him for him to go, myself included. It's just mental after winning the league last year. I actually cannot believe how wrong it's gone and how much ill feeling there is around Slot and the club at the moment.

    Believe it or not, a part of me would genuinely like to see him turn things around as much as I can't see it happening, it's just really sad actually. [emoji22]
    I do feel sorry for him to some degree. When he arrived he made tweaks basically asking players to cut out the riskier passes where the most likely outcome was losing possession. We won the league. This season we got some unlucky results and injuries so he has gone more risk-averse. We take even fewer risks, tactically and with players. Tightening up is what you expect of a team going through a rough patch but we aren’t used to it.

    Supporters want high octane heavy metal football but if he tried to do that we would quickly run out of players. We haven’t got the squad for that kind of intensity. He would need a couple of wingers, a striker, a centre-back, a central midfielder and a right-back.

    Hughes can be forgiven to some degree for not replacing Mo last summer, but not in January. It’s clear now he has lost too much pace. The Isak signing, what was the plan? We knew his injury record wasn’t great, none of us thought he would be leading a high press and running defences ragged. In Diaz, Nunez and Diogo we lost fierce competitors and signed a guy with twigs for legs? And how the hell was he so unfit when he joined? Was his preseason done on FIFA? The other signings are coming good but why the gaps?

    Going back, I don’t think our xg has been lower than the opposition’s in many games. There has been an element of bad luck in our results. That said, too many times this season we have watched players try to attack and it is clear they have no idea what their plan is supposed to be. Where are the patterns? Where are the sequences of runs and passes where three or more players know what each other are going to do? To me, we feel under-coached, and for the type of manager Slot is supposed to be that’s unforgivable.
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      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
      I agree with people saying Gerrard is a ****e manager, but I think him at LFC as a temporary caretaker is a different kettle of fish. It will create a positive vibe and i don't think resuits under Gerrard would likely be worse than we've seen this season. It's difficult for a caretaker to have authority in the dressing room, but he automatically would.
      I don't know about that either - SG is an absolute club legend by by Jesus was he one miserable *******. That and being a pretty useless manager really motivates against authority in the dressing room. With some players that have won more than him. Hard no for so many reasons for me.
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        Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
        I agree with people saying Gerrard is a ****e manager, but I think him at LFC as a temporary caretaker is a different kettle of fish. It will create a positive vibe and i don't think resuits under Gerrard would likely be worse than we've seen this season. It's difficult for a caretaker to have authority in the dressing room, but he automatically would.


        His love and desire would be more than most too
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          Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
          Gerrard will have total support from the fanbase. Interim until the summer. Get some results and life into the team.
          Don't think he would have total support.

          Some people will love the hype and believe that. Carragher would come out and pitch for him being the poeples choice.

          Other fans will look beyond that, at how (a) he isn't a good coach or manager and how (b) he is mixed up with genuine scum and not want him in the hot seat.

          For me, if Gerrard got the job temporarily like that, I'd want Edwards and Hughes to **** off straight away because that is a big time failure if they had to appoint Gerrard

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            Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
            Don't think he would have total support.

            Some people will love the hype and believe that. Carragher would come out and pitch for him being the poeples choice.

            Other fans will look beyond that, at how (a) he isn't a good coach or manager and how (b) he is mixed up with genuine scum and not want him in the hot seat.
            Concur - loads of fans (especially local) think he's a ****ing gob****e.
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              Nah, his song is still sung in the ground regularly. Whilst there will be a relatively small minority against it, the overall vibe would be overwhelmingly positive.

              Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
              I don't know about that either - SG is an absolute club legend by by Jesus was he one miserable *******. That and being a pretty useless manager really motivates against authority in the dressing room. With some players that have won more than him. Hard no for so many reasons for me.
              He's not just a club legend, he's internationally regarded as a world class player. I get that you're not a fan of the idea, (personally I'm indifferent) but I think you and fidget are overthinking it. Mr Liverpool at Liverpool brings the vibes, even if it doesn't bring the management skills.
              Last edited by Kenneth; 26-01-26, 10:11 PM.
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                Singing his song and wanting him as manager are very different.
                I'd love to see a survey of the fans on that. Will he get his irish mates a box?
                Even my father in law who is also from Huyton and has had a season ticket for 60 years is strongly against it. Worships him as a player but not a fan of the person.
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                  Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                  Have anyone reached the point where they're sick of Slot's face yet?
                  I disliked it immediately
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                    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                    Nah, his song is still sung in the ground regularly. Whilst there will be a relatively small minority against it, the overall vibe would be overwhelmingly positive.



                    He's not just a club legend, he's internationally regarded as a world class player. I get that you're not a fan of the idea, (personally I'm indifferent) but I think you and fidget are overthinking it. Mr Liverpool at Liverpool brings the vibes, even if it doesn't bring the management skills.
                    I actually think Gerrard as a temporary change to handle the rest of the season wouldn't be a disaster. He would definitely lift the mood and inspire the players and get a bit of 'Liverpool' back in the club, which it feels like we've lost. That bounce works for a while, but it will fizzle out.

                    The big issue with a temp role is what happens at the end of the season if he actually does well. Is he going to kick up a stink if he doesn't get the job permanently?
                    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                      I always got the vibe that Gerard resented Alonso when they were playing together, and maybe felt a little threatened..

                      I’d find it hard to believe he’d be happy doing a 3 month spell there, cos Alonso fancies some time on the beach and then will happily hand over the reins to Xabi.
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                        I’d like to think the high paid help at the club can avoid a Carrick/United situation if Slot is sacked, by announcing the interim and permanent managers at the same time.

                        If Gerrard does ok, his stock as a manager rises and he resets the negativity around his track record. That’s a pretty big win for him personally and even if he just wants to be a pundit it will strengthen his reputation for that role too.

                        I don’t see Alonso as having time on the beach, he will be preparing for next season, working out his playing style for LFC and what squad he needs within the budget constraints we have, as well as factoring in any departures. A theoretical pre-season if you see what I mean.
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                          The thing I don’t get at the moment is we have 21 points from our last 18 games, that's about half a season, that's a hell of along 'bad patch' how long can you consider it a patch and not just 'normal' Our aim for the season now has to be CL qualification. In this period we have average 1.16 points per game, to make CL we will almost certainly need at least 30 more points from 15 games, a shift from 1.16 to 2 point per game requires a significant turn around. If we aren't going to sign players where does that change come from? The only thing left to change would be the manager, if you are going to do that how long do you give Slot? If he carries on this pts per game run for another 5 games that gets us 6 points, but means that 30 point target requires 24 points from the last 10 games which obviously becomes decreasing likely for Slot or any other manager. So what is the plan here? We need to start turning this around now as very soon it will likely be too late. If the board have faith in the manager we need to bring in players (I would argue we need to anyway), but if they don't they need to make a change before we run out of time.
                          Last edited by Exiled_red; 27-01-26, 08:12 AM.
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                            Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                            The thing I don’t get at the moment is we have 21 points from our last 18 games, that's about half a season, that's a hell of along 'bad patch' how long can you consider it a patch and not just 'normal' Our aim for the season now has to be CL qualification. In this period we have average 1.16 points per game, to make CL we will almost certainly need at least 30 more points from 15 games, a shift from 1.16 to 2 point per game requires a significant turn around. If we aren't going to sign players where does that change come from? The only thing left to change would be the manager, if you are going to do that how long do you give Slot? If he carries on this pts per game run for another 5 games that gets us 6 points, but means that 30 point target requires 24 points from the last 10 games which obviously becomes decreasing likely for Slot or any other manager. So what is the plan here? We need to start turning this around now as very soon it will likely be too late...
                            The time for change is now.
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                              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                              I agree with people saying Gerrard is a ****e manager, but I think him at LFC as a temporary caretaker is a different kettle of fish. It will create a positive vibe and i don't think resuits under Gerrard would likely be worse than we've seen this season. It's difficult for a caretaker to have authority in the dressing room, but he automatically would.
                              Liverpool's problems at the moment are tactical / system flaws that have not yet been addressed by SLot and his team so I think expecting Gerrard to fix this is perhaps asking a little too much. He may get one or two good results but overall we would probably regress even further. I think Slot will remain as the Caretaker manager until the end of the season.

                              I think the Liverpool management have already determined that he does not have the capacity to create a long term strategic vision for Liverpool.

                              I compare his signing to that of Paisley after Shankly, and Paisley took what he had inherited and built on it. Paisley finished Second in the league , then first first and then the rest is history Can Slot do that?

                              Right now it does not seems so.
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                                Originally posted by Cerbie View Post
                                The time for change is now.
                                He is a league winning manager so it is difficult to say but given how long a bad run this is I don't think you can go on much longer there, he halted the abysmal run but the unbeaten run than followed in truth wasn't much better, it feels like he has run out of ideas or doesn't know how to fix this. The board aren't prepared to bring in more players. My feeling is if we stick with Slot we don't make the CL. Obviously replacing him doesn't guarantee CL either but I don't see how we turn this around the way things are going at the moment, I genuinely don't see where a PL win comes from, with the fitness stuff as well as the season progresses I think things will get worse rather than better from that point of view.

                                Something needs to change, if that isn't going to be players, you can't imagine the manager turning this around given how long he has had to turn it around so far and not been successful in doing so, the longer it goes the less likely it is to change. The only thing left really then is a change of manager. At this point there is a chance CL could be salvaged from the season, but the longer we plod on the the more that chance fades.
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