Arne Slot

[frank the tank]

I don't think he goes in the summer.

He is continuing to make mistakes, all already listed by everyone, but...there are a lot of mitigating factors... despite the huge outlay, the team (and squad) is worse than last year.

Only when we address that (at least 1 wide forward, at least 1 CB, 1 RB) can he be fairly judged IMO.

For that reason I think he gets start of next season.

Do you think lfc give him a new contract then in the summer?? I can only see that if we win the champions league.

[BG1973]

Very good point.

That's very difficult.. they could go into new season with set targets to earn a new contract or do a new contract in summer with payout based on whether targets were hit.

Yeah that's difficult.

[Norbs]

Do you think lfc give him a new contract then in the summer?? I can only see that if we win the champions league.

I'll give him a contract if we win the CL

[danperkins]

Do you think lfc give him a new contract then in the summer?? I can only see that if we win the champions league.

yeah for me even if we get champs league spot, he still goes. It's going to take something special for him to get beyond the summer imo.

[Friend of Moises]

Slot is going by July, we all know that. He's utterly clueless.

It's just a consideration as to whether he goes sooner. Which 99% of people are surely praying for.

He is absolutely lost at best.

[Kenneth]

We don't know that at all.

[Catrin]

Does anyone believe he turns this around ?

I don't know. There are too many questions, too many what ifs. If Guehi would have signed, or Leoni hadn't got injured would we have defended better, if only through Ibou having genuine competition? Is Mo's lack of numbers down to him slowing down or is the main reason our tactics? Would Alexis and Cody be in better form if Diogo was still with us or is there something else? If we had managed to keep everyone fit, and maybe even been a bit more pragmatic with our squad depth (especially in defence) how different would our tactical approach be? Even if he wanted to Arne can't send them out all fired up for hard running and flying into tackles because that leads to injuries and suspensions that we don't have cover for.

There is something to be said for the calmer approach. Heavy metal football got us past Barcelona 4-0 but it was more measured (sometimes slightly boring) football that got us the league in 19/20, and again in 24/25.

[danperkins]

Like most the games of this season, we seem to rely of individual brilliance or a hail mary to get us out of trouble. There has just been so much desperation from us in alot of games, that is not normal at LFC.. nor is a negative/boring/slow style of football. Imo only winning the champs league sees him being our manager next season. If we somehow won a domestic cup & maybe get champs league spot, I do think he'll still leave, both parties will be content and his time here has to be looked at as a success but maybe that he is not the long term guy for LFC. I don't think he was ever the long term option to be honest but more maybe a low key, solid enough, a low expectation appointment after Klopp, to keep us competitive after a club legend left but that nobody thought we would win the league in his first season.

I cannot see him turning it around & have thought that for awhile now. It's very clear that when the players are allowed to play with the shackles off & more of the faster, free flowing style, to me it does seem better suited to many of our lads. The whole negative/controlled Slotball was something that maybe Slot felt he had to do to stop the rot initially but also maybe because the squad is clearly imbalanced aswell.. which I think we can all agree it is but that slow, controlled style imo goes against many of the attributes our lads possess. Who's fault that imbalance in the squad is, well that is up for debate but it's pretty evident we've ****ed it. Also, not getting in reinforcements in that Jan window was a huge mistake. Even if it's difficult or whatever, we needed some bodies in.

So do we wait, stick with him, hope that we can drag us into 4th spot & make a champs league push or do we twist and take a chance like United or Chelsea and hope we can get someone in either for a short term surge or if Alonso is our guy, to give us that boost and new manager bounce? Imo I'd go with the latter, as I don't think we aren't good enough to win the champs league in our current state under Slot or get into that 4th spot but I do think we have the calibre of players that are more than capable of that. The question becomes, can someone else get more out of the current crop of players than Slot can? In reality, I think short of a complete collapse which won't happen, we'll wait, win some, lose some, draw and chug along and make a decision at the end of the season.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I can see what you are saying about difference in points in the first 10 and the second 10 of those games, problem is 16 points from 10 games is still only 1.6 points per game, that would see you get 60 points over a season, we need to do better than that, 2 points per game from here to the end of the season would see us finish on 65 points, to finish 5th in the last couple of seasons has got 66 points. In all likelihood we need more than 2 points per game, and from where we are now I just don't see that.

It's not today's result that is the problem,City are a good side, and while we don't like losing to them it's dropped points at home to the likes of Leeds, Forest and Burnley, that's 7 points dropped, win those 3 and we are a point behind Villa despite everything else, We drew at home to Sunderland, having a decent season, but you should beat the newly promoted sides at home, Man Utd were absolutely ****e when we played them, but they beat us at home...

You mention injuries, and yes we have had a few long term ones, Isak, Leoni and Bradley, plus Gomez and Frimpong out at the moment plus others have been out at varying points. The number of injuries we have had is fairly typical, the squad just isn't big enough or good enough. It's ****ing stupid to try and get through the season with a core of about 15 players.

It is, but what is maybe a bit unusual is we are getting multiple injuries to the same positions at the same time.

Like now with two RBs out or the number of times we had at least two CBs out at the same time.

We are then weakening out parts of the pitch to use midfielders to cover and what now.

Similar with Isak being out, we then did not had that extra attacking option whilst Salah was away and whilst Salah was and is badly below par.

Isak fully fit gives the choice of starting him and Ekitike together or being genuine cover for the other and would have maybe negated the need to have been moving Szobo out to RM for some games when Salah was away/dropped.

So many things going wrong this season, some out of the club's hands, some very much within their control. Same with Slot, some is of his making, some defo not.





Now that of course goes back to your point about too small a squad or rather a squad that is fine in terms of numbers but lacking in quality in depth.

[Exiled_red]

Let's say we just stumble along, go out of the cup and champions league in 2 rounds time, and somehow end up finishing 4th or 5th and getting into the champions league for next year.

The issue is that Slot only has one year left on his contract. Although liverpool fc have been happy enough in the past to leave players go into their last season, it will surely be harder to do that with the head coach.

Even if they decide they want to keep him for next season, it would he rather irresponsible after this season to offer him a new contact before Christmas at the earliest and that would require a big up turn in form between now and then, if he stays and we are to offer a new contract it's not before this time next year when we are doing well and are in a title race, but there is alot to happen before then.

Given his personal circumstances living apart from his family I am not sure that he necessarily wants to stay beyond his current contract unless his family move over. I could see a parting of ways as an option this year or next whatever happens.

[Irishnev]

It is, but what is maybe a bit unusual is we are getting multiple injuries to the same positions at the same time.

Like now with two RBs out or the number of times we had at least two CBs out at the same time.

We are then weakening out parts of the pitch to use midfielders to cover and what now.

Similar with Isak being out, we then did not had that extra attacking option whilst Salah was away and whilst Salah was and is badly below par.

Isak fully fit gives the choice of starting him and Ekitike together or being genuine cover for the other and would have maybe negated the need to have been moving Szobo out to RM for some games when Salah was away/dropped.

So many things going wrong this season, some out of the club's hands, some very much within their control. Same with Slot, some is of his making, some defo not.





Now that of course goes back to your point about too small a squad or rather a squad that is fine in terms of numbers but lacking in quality in depth.

That’s about squad planning and utilization of resources. Our RB situation was Bradley ( injury prone), Frimpong ( I suspect he was a utility player), Gomez (injury prone) and then midfield lads. You could say Bradley was unlucky as he got an impact injury as opposed to the normal muscle ones he picks up and Frimpong was never injured before but has had 4 muscle injuries this season…. Joe, well he is just injury prone. I felt we were a RB/CB hybrid short in the summer and maybe that was Guehi

The second part is keeping back up players primed, when they are needed they have to have a load threshold built so they don’t break. Arne’s reluctance to rotate means the back ups are more likely to break as they’ve no chronic load established. In fairness, fullback is probably the one area he was managing this well because he trusts those players.

[danperkins]

That’s about squad planning and utilization of resources. Our RB situation was Bradley ( injury prone), Frimpong ( I suspect he was a utility player), Gomez (injury prone) and then midfield lads. You could say Bradley was unlucky as he got an impact injury as opposed to the normal muscle ones he picks up and Frimpong was never injured before but has had 4 muscle injuries this season…. Joe, well he is just injury prone. I felt we were a RB/CB hybrid short in the summer and maybe that was Guehi

The second part is keeping back up players primed, when they are needed they have to have a load threshold built so they don’t break. Arne’s reluctance to rotate means the back ups are more likely to break as they’ve no chronic load established. In fairness, fullback is probably the one area he was managing this well because he trusts those players.

also I would add Konate and Jones as injury prone too and Leoni being an unknown. After the initial high fiving each other signing Wirtz and Isak, we all quickly realised just how weak and imbalanced the squad was. I'm not sure who is culpable but we ****ed up.

[Buzzo]

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[kingfunk]

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[Deano]

also I would add Konate and Jones as injury prone too and Leoni being an unknown. After the initial high fiving each other signing Wirtz and Isak, we all quickly realised just how weak and imbalanced the squad was. I'm not sure who is culpable but we ****ed up.

Hughes !