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    Agree with Tee. For me he's too placid a character. He reminds of Heskey in that sense. If he had Shelvey's drive, determination and belief he'd make it here. Sadly he doesn't.

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      agree with the above - a total meh player. nothing about him stands out - average passing, average pace, average tackling, average . . . . . everything.

      was excited when he signed thinking was one for the future and hope he does "a lucas" but i cant see it and would punt in the summer window.
      People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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        Originally posted by dww View Post
        I like him as a player but he's redundant in the squad with us having Sahin, Shelvey and Gerrard all seemingly ahead of him in the pecking order. I think his lack of first team exposure is hurting his development and we need to get rid at this stage. I think he has been unlucky and deserved better but if Rodgers doesn't rate him he needs to go.
        Agree with this.

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          Originally posted by ronanm View Post
          BUMP..

          I see he has said he's not a flop in the news section. I think he's a good player. The £16m mentioned isn't accurate, but anytime I have seen him play I thought he looked tidy enough. It's not helped that he's always out of position, but I do wonder why BR feels he shouldn't be in the team more often - particularly since our squad is whafer thin as is.
          Henderson's gone mate. If he survives January he'll almost certainly be shipped out next summer. Perhaps if he was on low wages and excelled in one area/position he might have some sort of future here but as things stand he's a goner along with Carroll, Downing, Cole and possibly Enrique.
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            I think you're right
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              Originally posted by ~LFCHistory~ View Post
              Henderson's gone mate. If he survives January he'll almost certainly be shipped out next summer. Perhaps if he was on low wages and excelled in one area/position he might have some sort of future here but as things stand he's a goner along with Carroll, Downing, Cole and possibly Enrique.
              those 5 gone by summer would be great busines!!

              Although buying that lot for 75million and selling for half of that if we are lucky can hardly be called great business But off the payroll and lets start again!!
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                what do people think they are worth?

                My guesses:

                Carroll - paid £35m, sell for £12-13m.
                Downing - paid £20m, sell for £6-7m.
                Henderson - paid £13m, sell for £5-6m.
                Cole - free, released on a free if we're lucky.
                I think Enrique will be here next year, but if not then - paid £6m, sell for £4m.

                So paid £78m, sold for less than £30.

                Obviously no consideration of wages, so a bit pointless but just for 'fun'.
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                  Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                  what do people think they are worth?

                  My guesses:

                  Carroll - paid £35m, sell for £12-13m.
                  Downing - paid £20m, sell for £6-7m.
                  Henderson - paid £13m, sell for £5-6m.
                  Cole - free, released on a free if we're lucky.
                  I think Enrique will be here next year, but if not then - paid £6m, sell for £4m.

                  So paid £78m, sold for less than £30.

                  Obviously no consideration of wages, so a bit pointless but just for 'fun'.
                  Agree with most of those valuations

                  Carroll's will depend on how well he does out on loan though i suppose.

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                    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                    what do people think they are worth?

                    My guesses:

                    Carroll -paid £35m,sell for £12-13m. Higher 17m (thought this was agreed?)
                    Downing - paid £20m, sell for £6-7m. (MON might push it to 9m)
                    Henderson - paid £13m, sell for £5-6m.(might squeeze 8m out if we are lucky)
                    Cole - free, released on a free if we're lucky. ( give someone 1m)
                    I think Enrique will be here next year, but if not then - paid £6m, sell for £4m.
                    (About right)
                    So paid £78m, sold for less than £30.

                    Obviously no consideration of wages, so a bit pointless but just for 'fun'.
                    So i reckon we might get nearer 40m, I suppose we have probably made 15m on Luis ( not that we are going to sell ) So its not all bad.
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                      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                      what do people think they are worth?

                      My guesses:

                      Carroll - paid £35m, sell for £12-13m.
                      Downing - paid £20m, sell for £6-7m.
                      Henderson - paid £13m, sell for £5-6m.
                      Cole - free, released on a free if we're lucky.
                      I think Enrique will be here next year, but if not then - paid £6m, sell for £4m.

                      So paid £78m, sold for less than £30.

                      Obviously no consideration of wages, so a bit pointless but just for 'fun'.
                      What the hell.

                      Carroll - £10m
                      Downing - £7m
                      Henderson - £5m
                      Cole - FREE (realistically we'll be paying all/majority of his atronomical wages for a couple more years)
                      Enrique - £5m
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                        Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                        what do people think they are worth?

                        My guesses:

                        Carroll - paid £35m, sell for £12-13m.
                        Downing - paid £20m, sell for £6-7m.
                        Henderson - paid £13m, sell for £5-6m.
                        Cole - free, released on a free if we're lucky.
                        I think Enrique will be here next year, but if not then - paid £6m, sell for £4m.

                        So paid £78m, sold for less than £30.

                        Obviously no consideration of wages, so a bit pointless but just for 'fun'.
                        Jesus, only getting 30 quid for them.

                        Thats a big big hit, ****s sake Kenny and Commoli.
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                            Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                            Agree with Tee. For me he's too placid a character. He reminds of Heskey in that sense. If he had Shelvey's drive, determination and belief he'd make it here. Sadly he doesn't.
                            He needs to really step up and takes some risks.

                            He plays too safe to really make any real impact.

                            That said I'm not so sure he'll be around much longer.

                            Clearly we wanted to use him as a make-weight to attract Dempsey and that attempt only failed coz Hendo blocked the trade but that may not be the case next time.
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                              Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                              He needs to really step up and takes some risks.

                              He plays too safe to really make any real impact.

                              That said I'm not so sure he'll be around much longer.

                              Clearly we wanted to use him as a make-weight to attract Dempsey and that attempt only failed coz Hendo blocked the trade but that may not be the case next time.
                              He seems all too happy to hide in the shadows. He's too nice, a bit of a pussy. The "perfect professional" I'm sure, but he doesn't come across as having the fight in him to make it all the way to the top.

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                                Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                                He seems all too happy to hide in the shadows. He's too nice, a bit of a pussy. The "perfect professional" I'm sure, but he doesn't come across as having the fight in him to make it all the way to the top.
                                Interesting you said that coz I remember that when he played at Sunderland and when he was used in the midfield he was very much offensive minded player that was not afraid to take risk, try long pass, try to score etc.

                                I'm not sure if it is the pressure of the big club or just his mental strength but he looks like completely different player with us.

                                Time will tell but being "perfect professional" and keepy-uppy king will not get him any playing time in the starting lineup.
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