Jordan Henderson

[spud_gun]

Just checked back my posts in this thread and luckily have been very gracious

It's sad more than anything that his decision to go there was so ill advised. It could've only been about money, and that's the one thing he's got plenty of already. I've joked about Sunderland (the town) but his wealth will really go a long way there. He could've gone anywhere in Europe without a soul moaning and would then have retained his legacy.

I expect he'll get a warm welcome back at Anfield one day, hopefully, but he'll not be lauded for his achievements or a poster boy for succeeding with limited ability as he should be

[Doc_Piptorious]

Just checked back my posts in this thread and luckily have been very gracious

It's sad more than anything that his decision to go there was so ill advised. It could've only been about money, and that's the one thing he's got plenty of already. I've joked about Sunderland (the town) but his wealth will really go a long way there. He could've gone anywhere in Europe without a soul moaning and would then have retained his legacy.

I expect he'll get a warm welcome back at Anfield one day, hopefully, but he'll not be lauded for his achievements or a poster boy for succeeding with limited ability as he should be

Would he really be that though?

Yes he was not as silky skilled as some players, was not as creative as others and so on, but then again that was not his function within the team.

But he did bring the sort of drive, workrate and determination that most others could not match and it was not like being a hard worker was all he had in his locker as a player. He was a good midfielder that also had some exceptional physical attributes.

He brought a lot of the less flashy but equally essential stuff to the team.

Guys like him and Wijnaldum at their peaks were the glue that kept things held together and without high level players of that ilk doing the less glamourous stuff our attackers would have been less busy and our defender would have been busier.


Think with Henderson it is pretty simple. We have the player and we have the man. They can of course be judged individually but I think it would be churlish to allow one to totally colour how the other is viewed.


For me he has shown himself to be full of **** away from the pitch and I found his mealy mouthed excuses with regards to LGBGT to be a snap shot of his character, however that changes nothing in relation to how he was as a player and as a club captain when he was in his prime with us.

[Exiled_red]

Im confused. He would rather receive nothing so he doesnt have to pay tax rather than be paid and lose 40% to the taxman?

Someone explain this?

I don't know what the truth is but the suggestion above (or in linked articles) was that he couldn't come back to England at the moment as he would be UK tax resident so would have to pay tax on any money he paid, his choice of clubs was supposedly influenced by this. I was flippantly making the comment that if he hadn't been paid (and wasn't going to be paid) for his time in Saudi then this wouldn't be a problem he'd have to worry about.

I suspect the reality is that he will be paid at some point and will have to pay tax on his Saudi money wherever he ends up going next.

[danperkins]

I’m delighted his true colours are seen, the way he went public on his contract renegotiations was ****housery tbh and we pocketed Almost 16m for him as well - jobs a goddun

destroyed his legacy

[Buzzo]

He's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?

100%

Chosen Captain by one of the most lauded managers we've ever had. Lead the team to lift evert major honour, and on two of the most monumental seasons ever recorded in the histotry of English Football.

Yes, he was on the wane by the end, and yes he ****ed up with his PR around going to Saudi. But at the end of the day he is a 30 year old millionaire, scrutiny is heavy and the onliine admonishment is sever.

But if we are going to happily shot all over the legacy of a player who achieved so much with us, what sort of fanbase does that make us?

Half of what is posted is heresay, and the rest is confirmation bias.

[Kenneth]

**** him, never really liked him anyway. He’d obviously had all the media training but but came across as insincere to me. This affair proved it. Two or three outstanding seasons out of 12, I’m comfortable with his tarnished reputation tbh.

[Liverpool]

I thought the Gareth Robers article on him today was decent, and time will heal the wounds but right now he can **** off imo

[Liverpool]

Mocking aside, if he doesn't get paid then it will serve a lesson to any player that it's a shambles of a league. Can they really afford to tarnish their own competition?

he's owed 4 million and the club wanted a 4 mil fee for him. He's essentially paying his transfer feee to Ajax by not taking his wages

[Norbs]

he's owed 4 million and the club wanted a 4 mil fee for him. He's essentially paying his transfer feee to Ajax by not taking his wages

I've done jobs that I've ended up not getting paid for and it boils your piss when it happens..working for 6 months for nothing must be excruciatingly annoying

[Mark79]

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[BG1973]

They're in for a surprise

[Charly]

Cruyff
Van Basten
Kluivert
Bergkamp
Litmanen
Suarez
Rijkaard
De Boer
Sneijder
Van Der Vaart
Huntelaar
Dick Van Dijk
Koeman
Davids
Laudrup
Molby
Henderson

[Mark79]

Cruyff
Van Basten
Kluivert
Bergkamp
Litmanen
Suarez
Rijkaard
De Boer
Sneijder
Van Der Vaart
Huntelaar
Dick Van Dijk
Koeman
Davids
Laudrup
Molby
Henderson

Meh, Henderson is obviously well past his best, but there's plenty of perfectly good footballers who would pale in comparison to most of that list.

[red g]

Has anyone from Ajax seen him play? Even at his brilliant best I would hardly ever call him a showstopper. He couldn't light a conference league alight. I predict this doesn;t end well.