Brendan Rodgers

[Alex]

The problem with this season is that our experienced purchases didn't deliver at all so we ended up relying on young lads with no experience of our league and it went to ****. Lallana, Lambert, balotelli and lovren have all been terrible for one reason or another.

Then the emphasis shifted onto Can, markovic, Moreno who have all struggled at times but they will be much better next season. Can we say the same about the other buys from last season.

Yep, I have really high hopes for Can, Markovic and Moreno. All 3 showed glimpses of what they could do. Can specifically should turn into a brilliant player for us.

The season we finished 2nd was a ****ing dreadful year for signings barring Sakho if I remember. Loads of players who played 1 or 2 games and then never to be seen again.

[captainfog]

A manager is only as good as his players. If Klopp signs rubbish then he'll fail.

[Kenneth]

I agree here. If someone wants gone, bin them off. The biggest trouble this year is that we didnt get stronger. We stood still . Everyone around us improved apart from City. But they won the league last year.

That's generous in the extreme, we went quite a long way backwards. We added some depth (of varying quality) but that hasn't made up for us losing a truly world class striker. We have the worst line up of strikers that I think I've every seen at the club, and it's shown in our results and league position.

[DannyMan2006]

A manager is only as good as his players. If Klopp signs rubbish then he'll fail.

And Klopp would have the same people buying him players as Rodgers does. Based on this I would definitely keep Rodgers on, if only he could find a formation and style that suits and stuck to it.

My hope is he has identified the way to move forward and will buy the players needed to make it work.

[Kenneth]

And Klopp would have the same people buying him players as Rodgers does. Based on this I would definitely keep Rodgers on, if only he could find a formation and style that suits and stuck to it.

My hope is he has identified the way to move forward and will buy the players needed to make it work.

If he doesn't buy the players, how would he do that?

[DannyMan2006]

That's generous in the extreme, we went quite a long way backwards. We added some depth (of varying quality) but that hasn't made up for us losing a truly world class striker. We have the worst line up of strikers that I think I've every seen at the club, and it's shown in our results and league position.

Agreed. Though in fairness, it's only so bad because Sturridge has been injured. If he'd have stayed fit we have one of the best strikers in the league up front.

And his mobility and skill would have probably made Balo & Rickie look a lot better than they are. Borini we'd have never even seen play.

[tanner]

a manager is only as good as his players. If klopp signs rubbish then he'll fail.

2005?

Greece 2004.

Dortmund 2011, 2012.

Better squads available in all those years, yet the manager made the difference between success and failure.

Dare I say it, Fergiscum, in his last season.

[Alex]

I always think a manager is worth +/- 10 Points. Good manager will improve you, bad manager will pull you down. Not much more than that margain though.

[Marvel]

2005?

Greece 2004.

Dortmund 2011, 2012.

Better squads available in all those years, yet the manager made the difference between success and failure.

Dare I say it, Fergiscum, in his last season.

the sum of all parts...

is it that rodgers just lacks experience or he's just not a very good manager. we have messed up all the big games this season that we needed to get something out of. United home, arsenal away, ludo, basle etc... we were given the easiest champions league group out of all the english teams and we ended up looking like a third division team.

basle and ludo outplayed us in the champions league, and generally our performance was terrible throughout - when the facts are that we have put out a much better team on paper than our opponents, basle, ludo, etc... a much more expensively assembled team.

mourinho even though he's a knobcheese did win the champions league with porto who had a good team but not a great one. Rafa won the champions league with a ****ing awful team - probably one of the worst teams to ever win the competition if we admit it to ourselves. then he reached another final two years later with yet another mediocre ish team. But where the players lacked quality / ability the managers own filled in those holes / gaps.

While we dont have the best players is he the sort of manager that can get us results we shouldnt be getting. I dont see that in Brendan Rodgers.

[Alex]

mourinho even though he's a knobcheese did win the champions league with porto who had a good team but not a great one. Rafa won the champions league with a ****ing awful team - probably one of the worst teams to ever win the competition if we admit it to ourselves. then he reached another final two years later with yet another mediocre ish team. But where the players lacked quality / ability the managers own filled in those holes / gaps.

Ill conced that the 2005 side wasnt one of the best sides in our history. But the 2007 team would have wiped the floor with most sides in Europe. If I recall, most feared us.

[frank the tank]

i disagree there...... imo tony pulis was worth a lot more to crystal palace last season than just 10 points. Also, this season look at Newcastle?!?!? The fans up there look so stupid with their PardewOut.com rubbish - they'd all give their left nut now to have Pardew back at the club (as much of a knob that he is)


A top manager is all about getting the maximum out of the players at your disposal..... i mean Djimi Traore winning the champions league FFS..... and if we did win the league last season it would have been Suarez and Sturridge that got the plaudits but in reality the squad we had with the likes of Aly Cissoko, Victor Moses and Iago Asaps - that would have been up there with the miracle in Istanbul.....

[captainfog]

Rodgers has plenty of experience. How long has he been managing now? 8 years? Including 3 with us. He's not a rookie anymore and it's a pretty lame excuse to hide behind.

[captainfog]

2005?

Greece 2004.

Dortmund 2011, 2012.

Better squads available in all those years, yet the manager made the difference between success and failure.

Dare I say it, Fergiscum, in his last season.

Obviously a manager adds something, they are not completely redundant. But if you buy **** then your team is going to end up being ****.

As for Rafa, he signed good players at first - Reina, Alonso, Garcia etc and we became a good side. Then at the end the good players left and we signed a load of rubbish. No surprise our form dipped as a result.

[Muddled]

Rodgers has plenty of experience. How long has he been managing now? 8 years? Including 3 with us. He's not a rookie anymore and it's a pretty lame excuse to hide behind.

He clearly is young in terms of a manager's age; He's ten years short of the average age of all current Premier League managers. Of the managers currently above us (52, 63, 61 & 65 respectively), Rodgers (42) is ten years shy of Mourinho (52) and 23 years shy of Wenger (65).

Rodgers has four years experience in the Premier League and double that in terms of football management overall. Whilst he's not a rookie, he clearly lacks experience and isn't even nearly considered ' seasoned'.

[Marvel]

Ill conced that the 2005 side wasnt one of the best sides in our history. But the 2007 team would have wiped the floor with most sides in Europe. If I recall, most feared us.

The team was feared but individually some of the players weren't all that. Our forward line was crouch, kuyt, pennant. Thats pretty mediocre by any standards. But rafa made us much more than that. He made us better than what we should have been.