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I think we can safely say that money and the attracting of a club with unlimited resources that have got in to the champs league were fairly major factors. Mancini gets alot of stick but he has got in some world class players and he has won the premier league. Money doesn't win you the league but it certainly goes a long fricken way that's for sure.
As soon as Man City got a champs league place, sure for me that was the sign when they could literally attract any player they wanted. Can't really say if Mancini was a draw for players, but he was a world class footballers & has a big reputation but to be honest IMO money,champs league football & a club massively progressing every season is a pretty big draw.
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Yes he did and he took the club to the next level. I very much doubt whether toure, silva and aguero would have signed for hughes. Mancini came and all of a sudden they are now attractive to players who previously didnt rate city or were'nt aware of them on a global level. He gave them credibility and players respond to that.Originally posted by danperkins View PostI think we can safely say that money and the attracting of a club with unlimited resources that have got in to the champs league were fairly major factors. Mancini gets alot of stick but he has got in some world class players and he has won the premier league. Money doesn't win you the league but it certainly goes a long fricken way that's for sure.
As soon as Man City got a champs league place, sure for me that was the sign when they could literally attract any player they wanted. Can't really say if Mancini was a draw for players, but he was a world class footballers & has a big reputation but to be honest IMO money,champs league football & a club massively progressing every season is a pretty big draw.
attracting the best footballers is part finance, part prospects of being part of a winning team and part the manager.
Look at mourinho or guardiola for example, if they ended up at qpr i bet they would be able to attract players who are way above the quality that they would expect to sign at such a club.
Yes footballers want to be paid well who doesnt but thats a given at most top clubs. Barca pay their players well like Real, utd and the rest but there's more than just money. you want to win things and play for a manager that you rate.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]
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Originally posted by el matador View PostYes he did and he took the club to the next level. I very much doubt whether toure, silva and aguero would have signed for hughes. Mancini came and all of a sudden they are now attractive to players who previously didnt rate city or were'nt aware of them on a global level. He gave them credibility and players respond to that.
attracting the best footballers is part finance, part prospects of being part of a winning team and part the manager.
Look at mourinho or guardiola for example, if they ended up at qpr i bet they would be able to attract players who are way above the quality that they would expect to sign at such a club.
Yes footballers want to be paid well who doesnt but thats a given at most top clubs. Barca pay their players well like Real, utd and the rest but there's more than just money. you want to win things and play for a manager that you rate.
no doubts players definitely consider the manager in their choice.
P.S. I think what it is that when people here Mancini talk in English he comes across as slow and well... a bit silly kinda like a spitting image doll. Capello & Ancellotii had this same problem IMO.
I would imagine that it is completely different when they are speaking in their native tongue.
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Originally posted by Reece View PostMy thoughts are that whoever wrote it is an idiot. And is probably about 13.
Apologies if it was you Leyton

Originally posted by Suarez View PostIts all pretty spot on really, 5 players out, £1m in, 3 players we've been chasing and none signed up, and he's bang on the money with the players we've brought in, nowhere near good enough to bridge the gap
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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Brendan Rodgers warned there will be 'more days like this along the way' while rebuilding Liverpool after his side crashed 3-0 at West Brom in the opening Barclays Premier League clash of the season.
Manager Rodgers and the legion of Reds supporters at The Hawthorns were given a reality check as goals from Zoltan Gera, Peter Odemwingie and Romelu Lukaku sealed their fate.
In addition defender Daniel Agger was sent off for a professional foul when conceding the first of two spot-kicks awarded to the Baggies.
Not a pretty sight: Brendan Rodgers (front right) watched his Liverpool side crash to a 3-0 defeat at West Brom on the opening day of the season
Only poor finishing prevented West Brom from doubling their tally while at the other end of the pitch Liverpool striker Luis Suarez spurned two gilt-edged opportunities.
Rodgers said: 'There is a big job to do and we will have more days like this along the way. That is the reality of it. It is still a work in progress.
'There will be days along the way that will hurt and it will be difficult for us.
'It is going to take time. Hopefully we won't have too many days like that and we will keep moving forward.'
Rodgers knows his side have to be more clinical in front of goal and Suarez, for all his brilliant approach play, needs to increase his conversion rate of chances.
The Reds boss said: 'The reality of the situation is we need to score more goals.
'If we are going to affect the top of this league, we have got to score more goals.'
Rodgers felt his side were harshly done by in terms of the two spot-kicks awarded against them by referee Phil Dowd - the first of which from Shane Long was saved by Pepe Reina.
He said: 'I like Phil. He is normally a good ref for me. We are not going to get everything our way.
'A couple of harsh decisions went against us, we never scored our chances and West Brom took full advantage of the extra man.
'But the players have been brilliant since I came here and gave everything at West Brom. They ran themselves to a standstill.'
Rodgers admitted to being concerned over the recurrence of substitute Joe Cole's hamstring injury which led to him being taken off.
He said: 'It is strange because Joe had trained all pre-season very well and then got injured in our first European game with Gomel.
'He came back, did well in training, came on at Albion for 10-15 minutes and the hamstring has happened again. It is something the medical people will have to look at.'
New Albion boss Steve Clarke believes his former club - he was assistant to Kenny Dalglish - will revive their fortunes although he admitted to approaching the game in a positive frame of mind.
He said: 'Liverpool are a top team with really good players and for me they will be up there challenging for the top four this season. But I expected to win.
'I'm quite a confident person. It doesn't always come across in my demeanour or manner but I knew I had a good group, that they were ready for the game and they proved me right.
'Sometimes you look at one of the top teams coming and you think it can be a really difficult afternoon.
'But I was asking the players to make sure it was a difficult afternoon for Liverpool - and that's what they did.'
Clarke admits having Gera available is 'like a new signing' after he missed all but three games of last season with ankle and knee ligament problems.
He said: 'Zoltan has had a difficult time with injuries but he has worked so hard to get back to this position.
'It is like a new signing for us really. He has come back and he might be getting on in years, but he is enthusiastic and wants to be part of what we are trying to do here.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2412qyLazOh I say his vision there was lovely
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Yeah I thought that was a bit obvious but not to everyone.Originally posted by danperkins View Post
no doubts players definitely consider the manager in their choice.
P.S. I think what it is that when people here Mancini talk in English he comes across as slow and well... a bit silly kinda like a spitting image doll. Capello & Ancellotii had this same problem IMO.
I would imagine that it is completely different when they are speaking in their native tongue.Last edited by el matador; 19-08-12, 09:16 PM.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]
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your either not actually looking at the guys contribution to the whole game/team, or on a wumOriginally posted by JohnDoe View PostEven if Joe Allen ends up to be decent, it still doesn't justify signing him. We had plenty of good central midfielders in the squad. I'm not buying it that Adam or Henderson are so inferior.
removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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Fans always overrate new signings. Always.Originally posted by baitman View Postyour either not actually looking at the guys contribution to the whole game/team, or on a wum
Then they watch them play and reality sets in.
I'm not saying Joe Allen is a bad player. He's a good player, but nowhere near worth his price and nowhere near the top level. We'll be mourning spending so much money on him when we could have upgraded other position more dramatically.
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We still have 11 days to sort out the other areas of the pitch. Lets see if FSG have a trick up their sleeve. Doubt it but I can only hope.Originally posted by JohnDoe View PostFans always overrate new signings. Always.
Then they watch them play and reality sets in.
I'm not saying Joe Allen is a bad player. He's a good player, but nowhere near worth his price and nowhere near the top level. We'll be mourning spending so much money on him when we could have upgraded other position more dramatically.
"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
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Nothing big will happen.Originally posted by Tee View PostWe still have 11 days to sort out the other areas of the pitch. Lets see if FSG have a trick up their sleeve. Doubt it but I can only hope.
We wanted to get Tello and Sahin on loan, it says a lot about what we have to work with. If we can't sell any players, we won't be able to spend. I doubt we'll upgrade the team. We had £30m and Rodgers somehow managed to waste it away without getting a game changer.
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So you don't think he's the worth the money in terms of getting the other players playing to Rodgers new system sooner too?Originally posted by JohnDoe View PostI'm not saying Joe Allen is a bad player. He's a good player, but nowhere near worth his price and nowhere near the top level. We'll be mourning spending so much money on him when we could have upgraded other position more dramatically.
I don't think any player is worth millions, they don't save lives, they merely entertain.Was muß, das muß.
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