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I don't think those decision were bizarre at all. If I did, I'd probably have the good sense to wonder what it is Rodgers was thinking that I wasn't, rather than accusing him of making decisions for the sake of it!Originally posted by The Birdman View PostMy only concern with Rodgers is that he doesn't start to make decisions for the sake of it.
Bringing Suso on smacks of 'look at me, I'm giving a kid a debut at 18 against Man U when we only have 10 men'
95% of fans would have predicted Ferguson bringing Scholes on at HT or early 2nd half to control the game as we had 10 men.
Scholes was always going to have an impact, it's all he can do these days, sit deep and keep the ball (and he's brilliant at it)
Rodgers threw on Suso at HT then had to make another panic sub on 60 odd minutes with Man U over running us in midfield.
Rodgers had no choice but to take off Sterling who was our best chance of nicking a goal on the break as Utd attacked more.
In hindsight the sensible substitution was Henderson for Borini at HT going to 4-3-1-1 with Sterling off Suarez.
Something else worth thinking about is Rodgers got the managers job at the end of May I think, we signed Sahin at the end of August.
If Rodgers loves Suso so much why did he sign a technical, left footed playmaker after watching Suso in training and games for 3 months.
To be clear I'm a big fan of Rodgers and I think Suso will be a very good player but bizzare decisions have been glossed over because of the sending off and penalty decision.
Replacing an injured player at half time is not a panic substitution. We had already completely lost control of the midfield, when Suso came on that was arrested to some extent. He was composed and retained the ball well, whilst offering an attacking outlet so we had a balanced team. It was only when we started to tire we were really overrun again, which is why Hendo was the perfect person to bring on next.
Disagreeing with the decision to bring on Suso is one thing, but how you can suggest it was only done to say "look at me" baffles me.Like blood on iron
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Originally posted by Red_Polo View PostI don't think those decision were bizarre at all. If I did, I'd probably have the good sense to wonder what it is Rodgers was thinking that I wasn't, rather than accusing him of making decisions for the sake of it!
Replacing an injured player at half time is not a panic substitution. We had already completely lost control of the midfield, when Suso came on that was arrested to some extent. He was composed and retained the ball well, whilst offering an attacking outlet so we had a balanced team. It was only when we started to tire we were really overrun again, which is why Hendo was the perfect person to bring on next.
Disagreeing with the decision to bring on Suso is one thing, but how you can suggest it was only done to say "look at me" baffles me.
Are we winning?
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I would bite your hand off for that now.Originally posted by Trippendicular View PostI'll tell you what, I think we might come to rue our slow start to the season. Once we fully click (and it doesn't look very far away), I can see us going a good dozen games undefeated and I think we might end up a win or two away from top 4.
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I think lets see what happens against Norwich before we think about 6th or 4th I'm just thinking about survival at the moment.Originally posted by Trippendicular View PostI'll tell you what, I think we might come to rue our slow start to the season. Once we fully click (and it doesn't look very far away), I can see us going a good dozen games undefeated and I think we might end up a win or two away from top 4.It's a prediction thread on a wish list.
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Come on.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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Teenage kicks could be right way for Rodgers to rejuvenate Liverpool
The president of the Disney Corporation told the BBC's Today programme yesterday morning that great achievements can flow from supremely bad misjudgements. This has been the week when Liverpool have proved the point.
Their dire failure to retain enough strikers when the transfer window closed last month is an outcome of a flaw in the club's senior management structure – the absence of a fully-empowered chief executive – which still has not been fixed. But the hole which was created in the squad has allowed some young players around the fringes to suggest, in convincing terms, that Liverpool possess the most talented teenagers in the Premier League.
If a side in which the Spanish 18-year-old Jesus "Suso" Fernandez may start are defeated by Norwich City today, then Liverpool may find themselves joint-bottom tonight. But ignore the bookies, should you hear them promoting short odds on Rodgers winning the sack race. Rodgers is building something very interesting and club owner John W Henry, perhaps the canniest mogul in United States sport, knows it.
If Liverpool finish 16th this season, as the club's playing foundations go in, Henry will accept it, and so will many supporters. The singing of Rodgers' name when the club were 1-0 down at West Bromwich Albion in the League Cup on Wednesday told us a lot. His decision to send on a 16-year-old and an 18-year-old at 1-1 revealed even more. This was a Liverpool who had not won a domestic fixture all season. However, their excellent football won through.
Young players like Raheem Sterling – raw, yet remarkably high on game intelligence – and Suso, a teenager possessing the coolness to set up a goal against Manchester United last weekend – are not of Rodgers' finding. Both belong to the academy system Rafael Benitez built up. There were a few bids for Suso on deadline day and only now is work under way to extend his contract, which is in its last year. But while using youngsters can buy a manager time, Rodgers has required depths of courage to give them a go and make them believe.
Andre Wisdom, a defender who stagnated like some others in the Kenny Dalglish era but shone in Liverpool's Europa League win in Berne last week, is in the same bracket, but the best may be yet to come. Look out for Jack Robinson, with pace and the tactical nous Benitez always wanted drilled into the Academy players, who has the potential to be a first-team left-back for a decade to come. Jordan Ibe may follow. There is some surprise around the England Under-17 ranks that Jerome Sinclair, who became Liverpool's youngest player, at 16 years and six days at The Hawthorns, should have accelerated into the team so fast. Even the Football Association had not seen that one coming.
"It's funny how things work out," said Rodgers. "Maybe it's fate. Maybe this is all part of the story. Sometimes things happen by design, others by necessity." He's a master of rhetoric and knows all too well that this fits a long Liverpool tradition.
A gem of a book on the Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley era, Simon Hughes' Secret Diary of a Liverpool Scout, reminds us of how it was the shock FA Cup sixth-round defeat at a Watford side struggling to avoid relegation from the old Second Division in February 1970 which led Shankly to turn to youth. In adversity, he signed a young Kevin Keegan and Ray Clemence.
A manager can't just employ those players, though. It is the way he ushers them into senior football which tells you about his really significant skills. Professionals often talk about the nervous energy which accompanies their fragile first game, playing in front of 20,000 people, rather than the usual 20. They'll tell you that you can burn off so much of the stuff that by kick-off time you are shattered.
The adjustment to the higher level of pace and technique required also means that virtually no young player will be good enough to go straight into a top-six side and flourish. It takes 20 games, maybe 30.
Look out for the manager's relationship with that young player during the game for a sign of whether he really possesses the powers to help him flourish. When Marnick Vermijl, Manchester United's 20-year-old debutante right-back, put a cross into the stand against Newcastle United on Wednesday there was muffled disappointment from supporters. Sir Alex Ferguson was straight out of his dug-out to clap the Belgian. It was a revealing moment. Rodgers has the same intuition. "He gives you energy," the young players say.
It is conceivable that Rodgers may have broader resources to call on, in time. Some in the United States speculate that Henry and the Fenway Sports Group will sell the Boston Red Sox baseball team. Henry bought the Sox and the New England Sports Network for $700m in 2001 and Forbes reckons that the team alone is now worth $1bn. Henry says there is no basis in rumours that he will sell. But the Sox are having a poor season which another mogul with money may be willing to pay over the odds to revive.
The view from the US is that the Premier League is the most effective place to export American knowledge of making money from a sports franchise. For now, though, it is a delicately balanced story of Rodgers and youth. Every defeat brings renewed urgency. Liverpool have four "winnable" fixtures before the Merseyside derby. But history proves champion sides aren't built in a day. It was six years after Keegan arrived that Liverpool finally soared. By then, Shankly had gone.Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club
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His philosophy is starting to take effect but I think this may not have been possible without some key signings. Every signing Brendan has brought in has made a contribution. Borini, Assaidi, Allen and Sahin. All of them are so hard-working and know exactly what Brendan wants from them. I think the most important thing for Liverpool is that we finally have a manager with an eye for a player. We have had such bad dealings over the past few years. I think now we are ready to correct that.
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Thanks for pointing that one out - enjoyable read.Originally posted by Mostar View PostTeenage kicks could be right way for Rodgers to rejuvenate Liverpool
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...l-8190414.html
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Craig ****ing Burley
SOMEONE in the Liverpool hierarchy should pull Brendan Rodgers aside quickly and have a firm word in his ear to save the guy from himself.
Rodgers has the look of a guy going about his business as if he’s already an Anfield legend and he has achieved nothing yet at the club.
He took part in a recent television documentary called ‘Being: Liverpool’ and the way he portrayed himself in that has left people in England unimpressed.
Rodgers emerged from the driver’s seat of a car that should have belonged to an American rap star. He lives in a house that you’d expect JR Ewing to reside in. Rodgers must remember it’s Southport he lives in and not Southfork.
He has a portrait of himself hanging in his house. Sure, it was a gift from the disabled fans of the Swansea Supporters Club for his contribution to charity.
But, really, putting it on display like that? It’s vanity of the highest order.
Rodgers appears to be typical of some of the managers we have. It used to be players that cornered the egotistical market but now the managers are overtaking them.
Alan Pardew and Roberto Mancini also fall into that category. They all want the limelight now.
Rodgers and the rest should take a leaf from Sir Alex Ferguson and Davie Moyes. Modest men but remarkable at their jobs.
They have earned the right to nice things in life but they will keep it in the background. They do not attract unnecessary attention to themselves.
You certainly won’t see them buying a car in the same forecourt as Snoop Dog.
Rodgers is light years behind Ferguson and a million miles away from Moyes' achievements.
The Everton gaffer should be his biggest concern because Rodgers will have to come out as the No.1 club on Merseyside this season before he can think of anything else.
Moyes has assembled his strongest squad yet. They are playing with confidence and are the most attractive team in the EPL just now.
Rodgers sometimes appears unable to keep things low key. He spent too long in the company of Jose Mourinho when he worked under him at Chelsea.
At least Mourinho could back up some of his outrageous claims with Champions League victories on his CV.
Rodgers has a poor record at Reading and an ok time at Watford on his resume.
He also inherited a good squad at Swansea that was built up by Roberto Martinez and taken to the next stage by Paulo Sousa.
But you’d think that pair never existed at the Welsh club. Goodness, Rodgers would take the credit for inventing football and tactics if he could get away with it.
It’s time for this great self-publicist to stop the bull**** and start delivering. Sack the cliches of ‘The Players plus the environment equals the behaviour’. It’s garbage.
People will start to see through this guy soon enough. I’m sure plenty of the Liverpool players have.
When I was at Derby I had John Gregory as manager and he was also full of it. The players weren’t fooled by his chat or the photos of him with Bruce Springsteen he had in his office.
But he does appear to be fully supported by the owners and that’s all that matters.
Still, they could do everyone a favour and take him aside. Before it’s too late.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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post/rant, best ever
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