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    Originally posted by Nigey View Post
    What are their strengths? Most of them have been playing here for years, still haven't found what their strengths are?
    How is the current way of playing not playing to the strengths of Reina, or Johnson, or Agger, or Sahin, or Allen? Nonsense innit.
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      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
      How is the current way of playing not playing to the strengths of Reina, or Agger, or Sahin, or Allen? Nonsense innit.
      Yeah, we need to hoof it up, then win the second balls. That's how you get results in the premier league.
      Are we winning?

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        Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
        I like Rodgers. I am more optimistic with him in charge than I was with Kenny. He's been pretty screwed over in terms of the players sold before his arrival, the quality of some of the players inherited and insufficient financial backing where the biggest agenda in the summer seems to have been reducing the wage bill. And the Carroll thing, well that was a major **** up.

        We have less points than we deserve.

        If the business we do in January improves us, then I will continue to be positive and we'll see what the summer brings. But he needs money. Proper money.
        Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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          I like Rodgers, but without the backing of the owners he will not be afforded the patience to do his job. Trust me, we carry onlike this until the end of the season the knives will be out.

          However, if he is allowed to bring in the quality players we need, the type of quality who can understand and apply his vision to the next level, then he will get us challenging very soon.
          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
            Yeah, we need to hoof it up, then win the second balls. That's how you get results in the premier league.
            Equally "death by football" hasnt achieved many results either

            I think you have to look at it both sides their should be some middle ground

            There are lots of ways to get from A to B there are no hard and fast rules either way. Results are the biggest indicator of whether you are going in the right way or not

            Our league start has been absolutely woeful in terms of results and unless Rodgers starts to put points on the board then more questions will start to be asked about him and his ideals / tactics / systems etc....
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
              I like Rodgers. I am more optimistic with him in charge than I was with Kenny. He's been pretty screwed over in terms of the players sold before his arrival, the quality of some of the players inherited and insufficient financial backing where the biggest agenda in the summer seems to have been reducing the wage bill. And the Carroll thing, well that was a major **** up.

              We have less points than we deserve.

              If the business we do in January improves us, then I will continue to be positive and we'll see what the summer brings. But he needs money. Proper money.
              What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

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              F*** off!!!

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                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                I like Rodgers. I am more optimistic with him in charge than I was with Kenny.
                So am I, but it's still not saying much.
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                  Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                  Equally "death by football" hasnt achieved many results either

                  I think you have to look at it both sides their should be some middle ground

                  There are lots of ways to get from A to B there are no hard and fast rules either way. Results are the biggest indicator of whether you are going in the right way or not

                  Our league start has been absolutely woeful in terms of results and unless Rodgers starts to put points on the board then more questions will start to be asked about him and his ideals / tactics / systems etc....
                  I for one think the Reina is too exposed and one of his strenghts is quick distribution, well we don't need that anymore, since as soon as we get the ball in play, we start passing it sideways and figure our way forward while the opposition mans the defence. It's too slow.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                    How is the current way of playing not playing to the strengths of Reina, or Johnson, or Agger, or Sahin, or Allen? Nonsense innit.
                    I said some of those, I've commented on Reina in reply to Lec, and IMO Johnson needs more space to make his runs, but we are so slow in building attacks that he will be weaving through four players. Agger is of course suited to this way, but I think he, along with Sahin is just as suitable, if not more, not a bit more direct play, Xabi played long passes frequently with good success, Sahin is capable of that.

                    I just feel we are restricting ourselves and limiting our offensive play to a large degree while also leaving ourselves way too open, don't see what's to gain. Name me one team today that's playing tiki taka with success that's not called Barcelona.
                    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                      He's unlikely to get many top quality players in Jan, though. Anyone who believes otherwise is being a little short sighted. Knives out at the end of the summer transfer window perhaps, but not by the end of this season.

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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        Equally "death by football" hasnt achieved many results either

                        I think you have to look at it both sides their should be some middle ground

                        There are lots of ways to get from A to B there are no hard and fast rules either way. Results are the biggest indicator of whether you are going in the right way or not

                        Our league start has been absolutely woeful in terms of results and unless Rodgers starts to put points on the board then more questions will start to be asked about him and his ideals / tactics / systems etc....
                        We should be using perspective here. We've lost 3 league games and have drawn a lot, that's not woeful though. It's not good enough, but woeful? Not really when you take into consideration the start of this season as an indication. Results have been certainly woeful if you analyse the whole of this year though, since the turn of the year. We were losing too many games last season, but have somewhat steadied that ship since the start of the season, though arguably we're drawing too many now.

                        It's a steady improvement for me. It's not getting worse.
                        Are we winning?

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                          Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                          We should be using perspective here. We've lost 3 league games and have drawn a lot, that's not woeful though. It's not good enough, but woeful? Not really when you take into consideration the start of this season as an indication. Results have been certainly woeful if you analyse the whole of this year though, since the turn of the year. We were losing too many games last season, but have somewhat steadied that ship since the start of the season, though arguably we're drawing too many now.

                          It's a steady improvement for me. It's not getting worse.
                          Its the worst start since we have been in the Premier League
                          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                            We should be using perspective here. We've lost 3 league games and have drawn a lot, that's not woeful though. It's not good enough, but woeful? Not really when you take into consideration the start of this season as an indication. Results have been certainly woeful if you analyse the whole of this year though, since the turn of the year. We were losing too many games last season, but have somewhat steadied that ship since the start of the season, though arguably we're drawing too many now.

                            It's a steady improvement for me. It's not getting worse.
                            I'm not calling for Rodger's head, just want that to be clear, I'm question his method's and how he goes about them, but he has to get the full season. But I have to agree with Lec, the results are poor, Rodgers had the summer and should have adressed our problem areas, but he really didn't. The squad is small and unbalanced, he doesn't know the best midfield combo and shuffles it far too much. Our attack consists of a left back, an 18 year old and Suarez while Gerrard is sitting in midfield and unbalancing it. Bah, most of all I'm incredibly frustrated.
                            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                              We should be using perspective here. We've lost 3 league games and have drawn a lot, that's not woeful though. It's not good enough, but woeful? Not really when you take into consideration the start of this season as an indication. Results have been certainly woeful if you analyse the whole of this year though, since the turn of the year. We were losing too many games last season, but have somewhat steadied that ship since the start of the season, though arguably we're drawing too many now.

                              It's a steady improvement for me. It's not getting worse.
                              Its the worst start since the Premier League started
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Dan Kennett ‏@DanKennett
                                Most errors are Skrtel x4, Reina x3, Lucas/Allen/Gerrard/Wisdom x2 #lfc. Last season Man City made just 10
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