Got to wonder about Sahin. What is his role for us? I thought he was going to be a starting 11 player, but he's been nowhere near that.
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I think you were expecting too much really. We finished 8th last year and went trough a massive overhaul in personnel. I was really worried that we would have slumped into a relegation battle at the start of the season but we've steadily got better and better.Originally posted by Pablo1981 View PostThey really haven't, they've been dire. We're 11th near the halfway stage. That's grim no matter how you dress it up. 7 points off 4th. So what? We're also 7 points off 18th!
We've also been dumped out of the Capital One too.
Don't think Rodgers can do much better with that squad to be fair and that is why I think people are unfair in criticising the results at this stage.Are we winning?
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Originally posted by Nigey View PostSahin will thrive with better players around him. Too early to say.
And controversial as this is, Allen is the epitomy of mediocrity for me. He has done his job admirably and is a tidy player most of the time, but I cannot see him being a long term regular when Lucas is fit."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
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The thing with Sahin is we could end up giving Real Madrid a fresher player for next season, who has all the qualities to be Alonso's long term replacement. We haven't used him in his best position at all, nor asked him to play a role which involves passing and stretching the play from deep, and I don't think we will, which means we'll probably bring in another kind of central midfielder in the summer.Originally posted by Daniel 7 View PostGot to wonder about Sahin. What is his role for us? I thought he was going to be a starting 11 player, but he's been nowhere near that.
It is frustrating, because his best position should be besides Lucas, at least until he develops a level of match sharpness which enables him to play in a midfield 3 and pushing further forward.
I am hopeful and concerned about the signing of Borini. He showed glimpses of a good player in there, but he disappeared a lot in the games he played in, topped with being used in the wide areas.
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I'd agree with the 6/10. Results have been poor and he has to take some of the blame for the decisions in the summer. However, the way he's treated the youngsters is to be applauded and on the whole the way he tries to get the team to play is good.
The make-up of the squad is a shambles and the lack of goals is very worrying, and his signings have generally failed. Allen being the one shining light, but Borini, Assaidi and Sahin have all failed - so far.
January will be very interesting - we need to have one attacking player lined up for the first week. No excuses.
On the whole he's a step up over the previous two managers - but a step down on the one that came before.
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I would go for 5/10 I think it has been difficult for him this season, and the loss of Carroll and no replacement hasnt helped. I agree with one of the other posters about the youngsters and that is a great step forward. Some of the play this season has been a little boring, lots of passing and nothing else. Maybe once we get someone to pop the goals in,this passing will mean something. January is a massive month for him and the club,lets just hope that FSG and Rodgers get it right.It's a prediction thread on a wish list.
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A relegation battle? With our squad? WTF Nigey?Originally posted by Nigey View PostI think you were expecting too much really. We finished 8th last year and went trough a massive overhaul in personnel. I was really worried that we would have slumped into a relegation battle at the start of the season but we've steadily got better and better.
Don't think Rodgers can do much better with that squad to be fair and that is why I think people are unfair in criticising the results at this stage.

I'm realistic, Champions League was a long shot, but we should be better than 11th mate. Significantly better. I think your expectations have been Hodgsoned!
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I'd call it a shambles yes. We shipped out experienced forward-minded players in the summer, we didn't replace them. The lack of goals in the squad amazing - we have two players that generally score. One of which is a pale imitation of what he was 3 years ago.Originally posted by Nigey View PostThe make up of the squad is a shambles? Come on, we need depth and more quality upfront and some cover in midfield but I wouldn't say it's a shambles. Meh would be the correct word.
We have one recognised striker in the squad.
We have one recognised defensive midfielder in the squad.
That to me is pretty shambolic. I don't believe Rodgers is entirely to blame for the state we're in but he has to take some of the flack.James Philip Milner Fanclub #1
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In an attacking sense, yes it's shambolic. This weekend's game, with no backup striker, is a perfect example of that.Originally posted by Rich View PostI'd call it a shambles yes. We shipped out experienced forward-minded players in the summer, we didn't replace them. The lack of goals in the squad amazing - we have two players that generally score. One of which is a pale imitation of what he was 3 years ago.
We have one recognised striker in the squad.
We have one recognised defensive midfielder in the squad.
That to me is pretty shambolic. I don't believe Rodgers is entirely to blame for the state we're in but he has to take some of the flack.
That said, we still have good enough players to be finishing way ahead of where we are now.
I think we've been unlucky (again), and I can see things improving, especially if we buy well, but still I cringe every time I look at the league table.
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He's done ok so far and i think I can see us moving forwards but he will need investment in the squad in January. At the same point of Rafa's first season in charge he's 5 points less than Rafa had in the league but lost less games, I think with the right players coming in we could potentially see a similar league total as the CL winning season and if he manages that he'll have done well.
Big ask but I think it could be done
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