Brendan Rodgers

[Fivex]

You only have to mention Rafa's name on any LFC forum and it starts an argument, we need a manager who can unite the fanbase. Rafa divided the fans when he was here and he's still doing it 4 years after leaving Just one of the many reasons it would be a bad idea to bring him back.

Sorry, don't want that at the club, we need to start with a clean slate.

For me the odd thing is he'd have to be a genuine contender logically, and this (the fan split) is the only reason it'd be a no-goer.

And it's based on misinformation and willing ignorance. His CV and mitigating circumstances last time can't be ignored.

[~LFCHistory~]

That's fair enough mate but one thing that isn't on is people trying to belittle his achievements while at the club and that "he won with geds team" is a prime example. The same people forget to mention that he got to the 2007 Athens final a full 3 years after Ged left.

I'll tell you one thing for sure Houllier wouldn't have got us anywhere near Istanbul if he'd have been manager.

I know it is ludicrous, Rafa was a different level of manager to Houllier clearly. I liked both those managers but like Dalglish I'd rather remember the good times and leave it at that, not bringing them back in a vain attempt to recreate past glories as many LFC fans would like sadly.

[Fivex]

Different to Kenny tho. He's not 2 decades older and has kept managing top teams since he left.

[~LFCHistory~]

For me the odd thing is he'd have to be a genuine contender logically, and this (the fan split) is the only reason it'd be a no-goer.

And it's based on misinformation and willing ignorance. His CV and mitigating circumstances last time can't be ignored.

I don't think it his just his divisiveness, it's his very hit and miss record in the transfer market despite what his fans will tell you and the generally effective but ultimately boring football his teams play.

[~LFCHistory~]

Different to Kenny tho. He's not 2 decades older and has kept managing top teams since he left.

Agree but like Dalglish his best days are probably behind him, all Rafa's greatest achievement's as a manager were quite a while ago now, Istanbul - coming up to 10 years now and the La Liga titles were more than 10 years ago.

[slaine]

Where does this clean sheet stuff come from? I'm old enough to remember the boot room succession... Basically men that had proved their worth previously, being given the chance... Now it's all x has done well in a different league, so that must work in the premiership...
We want someone that has done well in xyz leagues... A proven winner. I think our options are limited there...
Rafa ticks those boxes, and he loves the city enough to leave his family there... I think he'd bust his spanish waiter gut to come back and finish what he started... Divides the fans? Well, reading the forum, some fans see it right to call various players all sorts of things, so maybe the fans need dividing... into ones that support the team, and those that don't...
Brendan talks the talk, but doesn't produce... I like the guy, but recent team selections have been muck. Maybe if he swallowed his 'I can do it all' personna, and allowed a DOF, then things might go better...
As it is, it's gonna end up badly for him... and take the club down a further notch or two... Out of the available options, Rafa is the only one I'd trust to do the best for the club...

[~LFCHistory~]

Where does this clean sheet stuff come from? I'm old enough to remember the boot room succession... Basically men that had proved their worth previously, being given the chance... Now it's all x has done well in a different league, so that must work in the premiership...
We want someone that has done well in xyz leagues... A proven winner. I think our options are limited there...
Rafa ticks those boxes, and he loves the city enough to leave his family there... I think he'd bust his spanish waiter gut to come back and finish what he started... Divides the fans? Well, reading the forum, some fans see it right to call various players all sorts of things, so maybe the fans need dividing... into ones that support the team, and those that don't...
Brendan talks the talk, but doesn't produce... I like the guy, but recent team selections have been muck. Maybe if he swallowed his 'I can do it all' personna, and allowed a DOF, then things might go better...
As it is, it's gonna end up badly for him... and take the club down a further notch or two... Out of the available options, Rafa is the only one I'd trust to do the best for the club...

Right.

[slaine]

Right.

Agreeing, or being sarcastic?... It's so hard to know..

[sssiho]

He's gotta go. He's been found out.

[Spaghetti Legs]

He won the Champions League with Houllier's team plus Alonso and Garcia, spent the next five years making more deals than Harry Redknapp on deadline day and bar the FA cup (and subsequent exhibition matches) won????

**** me, you have to be a top class dickhead to think like that.

[Spaghetti Legs]

Not the point at all. The point I was trying to make was that Rafa's greatest success was in his first year and as he developed the team and implemented his own style and signings he actually won less. Go figure.

You made your point, everyone knows you're a ****ing idiot now, well done.

[EwarWoo]

[vonk]

What a day to be an LFC fan. A lot of stressed people around. I will have to get off Twitter because emotions are high and Rodgers is getting called some dreadful names. Best fans in the world my arse. First sign of a crisis in Rodgers' tenure and the majority are calling for change. Klopp, bottom of the Bundesliga - are Dortmund fans calling for his head? Firstly, let's get something clear, FSG will never approach Rafa. He wasn't interviewed at any time when the job was available, and those on other forums who know them state Rafa is not an option, well known he splits the fan base and many other reasons make it a complete non-starter. De Boer has no experience of a major league. Would be a bigger risk than Rodgers. Thankfully, unlike a huge amount of our fans, FSG are going to give their man a chance.

I'm not happy about today, no supporter is. No-one is happy about Lovren, who is looking like a terrible mistake. I'm not happy with Henderson, Allen, Lambert either. But, for those three, pick your favorite scapegoats, because everyone has a different opinion. I think Glen Johnson has been decent, better than Manquillo, who can't cross, or Moreno, who can't defend. Yet most have the two youngsters in their team. Can, who has been alright, gets better in peoples minds the more he doesn't play. Should he really be starting more? Lucas has been good in the defensive mid role, but he can't play every game and is surely not the answer long term. Same with Toure, who has been injured. Sakho should play, but isn't he coming back from a long term injury? Gerrard has been poor, but he's the only player who can actually pass the ball from deep, hence why he starts against everyone's better judgement.

My long-winded point is that I've yet to see anything close to consensus among fans about who should play. Yet every week we have people calling Rodgers an idiot, and worse, for the team he picks. He gets little credit for at least trying new things, like he did today. He has a team that's lost it's three best players this season (counting the fading Gerrard) and gained 6 or 7 others who are young or bedding in to a new system.

I'm taking this poor first half of the season better than I expected, mainly because I expected it. There is no way to introduce that many players in a couple of months. The season starts in January for me, and yes, it will be too late, but that's the conscious decision FSG and Rodgers have taken to move us forward. Potential over stars. It's shown in the reduction of the wage bill, transfers, and this is the reason Rodgers gets more time - because it's equally the fault of the owners. Not sure I agree with the policy, but that's it.

I'm all for giving him time, he's a decent coach going through a rough patch. If we sack him we don't get the benefit of what he can learn from this. At least he's trying new things. And don't give me this Borini, Can, Markovic are the answer. No they aren't.

As for today, the result and the manner of it were gutting. I thought Mignolet deserved to be dropped, even if it was for Jones. I was fed up watching Mignolet blunder every week. Hopefully something gets done about Lovren too. The defence will be much better without them both. Skrtel has been brutal too, but gets away with it because of Lovren. However, we were very good in attack and we should go the same again for the next month. Balotelli and Sterling missing so many clear chances is hardly Rodgers fault, and at least shows signs of attacking threat again. Lallana, Coutinho, Markovic, Sterling, Mario all impressed today and carved them open many times. Signs of life. I'm 100% behind the manager, and looking forward to him making fools of those abusing him now.

[Exiled_red]

we were always going to get chances against that defence, unfortunately we had no strikers at the start and the one we did bring on just isn't clinical enough.

That's the issue with all our attacking players and why we have only managed 19 goals in 16 PL games

[Rich]

My choice would be Rafa but it's clear as day that there are too many fans against his return for him to have a fair chance.