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    Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
    Well on that logic i suppose we can discount Joe Fagan as he won the league , league cup and European cup with Bob's team in 84.
    Not the point at all. The point I was trying to make was that Rafa's greatest success was in his first year and as he developed the team and implemented his own style and signings he actually won less. Go figure.
    A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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      Originally posted by Rowan View Post
      Not the point at all. The point I was trying to make was that Rafa's greatest success was in his first year and as he developed the team and implemented his own style and signings he actually won less. Go figure.
      At least he won something.

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        Originally posted by alonso14 View Post
        At least he won something.
        So did Souness. Should we have kept him too?
        A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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          Originally posted by Keyser Soze View Post
          We win the possession stat most games, this season we're also winning the number of shots stat.
          Soon we'll be winning the most corners turned.

          Originally posted by Rowan View Post
          That's the point. Take away the trophies that our successful managers have won and they'll have won no more than the managers who won nothing. In reality if you discount the champions league and FA Cup from his time here then really Rafa was no better than Roy... And he had an extra 5 years... During the last 6 and he won exactly **** all in the last 4 of them.

          Who has been our most successful manager since Kenny mk1? Ged?
          Ged? You must be joking, apart from the trophies he won, he won NOTHING!
          Like blood on iron

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            Originally posted by Rowan View Post
            Not the point at all. The point I was trying to make was that Rafa's greatest success was in his first year and as he developed the team and implemented his own style and signings he actually won less. Go figure.
            His greatest success was, yes. But the quality and performance of the team improved after that and peaked well into his reign - around about the time the cowboys started screwing us over.
            Like blood on iron

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              Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
              Soon we'll be winning the most corners turned.



              Ged? You must be joking, apart from the trophies he won, he won NOTHING!
              I know!!! The sooner we stop using winning things as a barometer of success the sooner we get a successful manager. It's like science and ****
              A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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                Originally posted by Rowan View Post
                Not the point at all. The point I was trying to make was that Rafa's greatest success was in his first year and as he developed the team and implemented his own style and signings he actually won less. Go figure.
                He did get us to another CL final with his own team.
                Modifying post.

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                  We were regularly in the CL and also regularly challenged for it. Winners, semi finals, quarter finals, finalists. We were regularly in the CL with rafa and apart from his final season which had alot to do with the owners I'd take finishing 4th over the next couple of years right now.

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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    He did get us to another CL final with his own team.
                    Sshh you cant mention that to the Rafa bashers.

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                      Rafa for me... What other manager, after putting up with the ****e he did, had the class to do this... http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...enitez-3403804

                      That buys him a lot of time in my eyes

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                        Well this Rafa talk is really interesting. Predictable, overly nostalgic, been done to death repeatedly and pointless as he won't be a contender, but interesting nevertheless.
                        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                          Well this Rafa talk is really interesting. Predictable, overly nostalgic, been done to death repeatedly and pointless as he won't be a contender, but interesting nevertheless.
                          its all for your benefit mate

                          while i wouldnt be 'all in' for rafa it more a question of who we can get and who might want to take on a job with possibly limited resources and a team defunkt of any passion
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                            You only have to mention Rafa's name on any LFC forum and it starts an argument, we need a manager who can unite the fanbase. Rafa divided the fans when he was here and he's still doing it 4 years after leaving Just one of the many reasons it would be a bad idea to bring him back.

                            Sorry, don't want that at the club, we need to start with a clean slate.
                            http://www.youtube.com/user/LFCHistory?feature=mhee

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                              Can't work out if I'm misreading or there's some A1 wumming gawn daan.
                              Hello mert.

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                                Originally posted by ~LFCHistory~ View Post
                                You only have to mention Rafa's name on any LFC forum and it starts an argument, we need a manager who can unite the fanbase. Rafa divided the fans when he was here and he's still doing it 4 years after leaving Just one of the many reasons it would be a bad idea to bring him back.

                                Sorry, don't want that at the club, we need to start with a clean slate.
                                That's fair enough mate but one thing that isn't on is people trying to belittle his achievements while at the club and that "he won with geds team" is a prime example. The same people forget to mention that he got to the 2007 Athens final a full 3 years after Ged left.

                                I'll tell you one thing for sure Houllier wouldn't have got us anywhere near Istanbul if he'd have been manager.

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