Brendan Rodgers

[sssiho]

No CL, no other trophies this year. Would not be surprised if FSG pull the trigger, especially
as it seems there will be a managerial merry go round this summer. Klopp, Rafa, pellegrini, Ancelloti??, all could be available.

[Paddy]

This year was meant to be a tile challenge. Get rid. Simple.

Plenty of better manager available. Very rarely a plan b available in Rodgers.

[McDermotX]

Have to be concerned with the lack of a cohesive plan and formation, and today, even with some injuries, was especially galling - at best it could be described as 'hit and hope tactics'.

Dim '****ing' Sherwood FFS !

[peekay]

Rafa took a team that was in the CL and had good pedigree in Europe. Players wanted to join us. I'd have Rafa back in a heartbeat if Rodgers went, but he had a good hand when he joined. Did wonders with it. But would he accept the committee? Would he ****e. And neither should Rodgers. We should have a manager who signs his own players and is judged on that. And if he fails, bin him.

It also helped that after the two La Liga wins, UEFA cup, Istanbul, Rafa ( along with Mourinho) was the hottest young manager in Europe. Big part of why we could get Xabi, Reina, Torres, Mascherano, Morientes. While his star has waned a little bit from 2004-2007, his European pedigree would help a lot if we were competing for a player who was deciding between us and Arsenal.

[Daniel 7]

Basically done with Brendan after that, the team were gutless, set up badly and has far too many passengers. That game was like stepping back in time to the start of the season when he stubbornly stuck to a system that didn't work for anyone. If he can't get those players to fight for the cause in a cup semi-final then it's time to go. Even the basics aren't there. The whole season was an opportunity and he squandered it. Sack him off.

[ChrisDR1968]

Wow I've been on this forum for a year now and there's a lot of posters on here I've never seen before.

I guess it's true that when things go pear shaped internet forums get a lot busier!

On Rodgers and whether he goes or stays for another season... does anyone here really trust him in the transfer market with whatever budget FSG give him during the close season?

Can't say I would if I were them in all honesty... and if they feel the same way there doesn't seem to be much point in keeping Brendan on

[Redspin]

First LFC manager to go three years without a trophy?

Well, Bill Shankly was a Liverpool manager I believe and I well remember him winning the league in 1966 and then winning bugger all until the League/UEFA Cup double in 1973.

That's seven years without winning a trophy i think you'll find

[Nicey]

We are still fight for the CL .... I would say lets see what happens ... I would only consider letting him go if a really amazing candidate comes available ...lets not forget up until a fews ago .. not only were we the form team in England ... we were that form team across Europe ... Yesterday was not good though ... not good at all .... And Gerrard was god awful ... one moment sums up his performances these days .. he gives the ball away cheaply in an attack and then proceeds to stroll around looking fed up rather than try and fix his **** up ... annoyed the crap out of me ... hes been like that for months now ... Honestly he is already in LA and looks like hes going through the motions at the moment ... calling it in big time

[Muddled]

Just come across this on the official and thought it had some pretty decent points when comparing past managers and their sackings.


Three years, £200m plus spent, mostly on ***** - imagine if he was the manager of a rival like Utd - we'd all be laughing at them and saying he should stay - which is what CFC, AFC, UTD etc... fans are saying to us.

And there are LFC fans SO deluded that they liken BR to Shankly's second coming. Utterly, utterly laughable.

A supposed tactical genius taken to task by Tim (D'oh!) Sherwood? Five formations in one game? A man who thinks playing Villa in a Cup semi is a BIG occasion?

A man who hid behind the striking prowess of Suarez and the positive effect that had on the team, who then replaced that prowess with *****? Who was still smiling when this season started because even HE believed his own hype, until the team and squad he "rebuilt" with the £220m fell apart? A man who then managed to scrape together some wins and an unbeaten run that took us all the way to...5th (which far from being an indicator of how "great" he is, is rather a massive indication of just how crap we were until that point.)

A man who claimed HE had last say on ALL players signed but will now brief his media mates about a transfer committee making him take players he didn't want? I wanted Willian (boo hoo!) but they bought me Balotelli etc...

Here's the really, really annoying thing though. We HAD the closest we've come to an heir to Shanks and we let some bankers sack him. He fought for this club and its fans. He built a squad with a smaller avg net spend per season than Sunderland had over his 6 seasons here. He took us into Europe, won us the CL, nearly won it for us again, and took us to the very, very top of the Euro rankings, and made us a feared name once again. He won us an FA Cup, and nearly won us the league. He brought us players with courage and spark and genuine desire (despite the gambles and the mistakes that all managers make) - Alonso, Agger, Masch, Torres, Reina and Kuyt (to name a few) would have run through a wall for us. He MADE Gerrard the best player in his position in the WORLD in 05-09 - something even Gerrard knows ("he told me I ran too much" said Stevie of his first meeting with Rafa.) Rodgers midfield maestro is Allen, Rafa's was Xabi - GAME OVER.)

Rodgers will do NOTHING with this club. Three years, three Summer windows of spending, 3 January's, and look where it's got us? Yes - second last year, which means nothing to anyone outside some of our fan base, a laughing stock in the CL when we got there, and "progress" that is taking us backwards. Funds wasted, tactics a joke, formations seemingly decided on the hoof, players bought and discarded without so much as five games to prove themselves and on and on...

Like I said - laughable, laughable, laughable. If we removed Rafa for one bad season (under extreme H&G induced duress) forgetting what he achieved in the other five, if we sacked our KING after he won us a cup, and nearly won another, then FFS why are people even questioning this?

Codswallop.

We cant handle the pressure of the big games. Were bottlers.

Because we have a youthful team with little to no experience of big games. Or we have older lads, whose legs have gone and can no longer have an impact. We need the right blend in our starting eleven. We need some leaders and that is highlighted even more when you start to consider who could be our next club captain.

Then you look at the games against the big clubs when we have started brightly, but not made our early pressure count with goals. We concede and we fall apart. We can play against the big teams and play well, but if we go one down, our heads drop and there is nobody to pick the team back up. We lack dynamism.

This year was meant to be a tile challenge. Get rid. Simple.

Plenty of better manager available. Very rarely a plan b available in Rodgers.

It wasn't the year of a title challenge to many fans, I would argue it was a season of trying to cement our place in the top four and continue to build with a challenge in mind for next season.

I would also argue you saw Plan B and C yesterday from Rodgers. He clearly has ideas up his sleeve without perhaps perfecting Plan A.

[captainfog]

Well, Bill Shankly was a Liverpool manager I believe and I well remember him winning the league in 1966 and then winning bugger all until the League/UEFA Cup double in 1973.

That's seven years without winning a trophy i think you'll find

As i clarufied earlier, i meant first 3 seasons.

[captainfog]

As i clarufied earlier, i meant first 3 seasons.

Yup, obviously hodge didn't either but he was only here 6 months.

[Helios Creed]

Codswallop.



Because we have a youthful team with little to no experience of big games. Or we have older lads, whose legs have gone and can no longer have an impact. We need the right blend in our starting eleven. We need some leaders and that is highlighted even more when you start to consider who could be our next club captain.

Then you look at the games against the big clubs when we have started brightly, but not made our early pressure count with goals. We concede and we fall apart. We can play against the big teams and play well, but if we go one down, our heads drop and there is nobody to pick the team back up. We lack dynamism.



It wasn't the year of a title challenge to many fans, I would argue it was a season of trying to cement our place in the top four and continue to build with a challenge in mind for next season.

I would also argue you saw Plan B and C yesterday from Rodgers. He clearly has ideas up his sleeve without perhaps perfecting Plan A.

Exactly. And whoever let us go into the season with no replacement for Luis's goals should be seriously questioned, as it wasted this season and lost all the ground we made last.

[The Birdman]

It seems Muddled is the only one talking sense.
Rodgers has changed formations before in games, it worked and he's a genius.
He tried the same thing yesterday, we lost and he's a clueless idiot??

Really?

This bottled tag is complete bollocks as well, this forum is like a breeding ground for hormonal teenagers reared on a diet of red top sensationalism.

We have a young team, with a young manager. How are they supposed to be experienced and used to winning big games when many haven't played in any?
How can you have a track record winning games you haven't played in?

And those that have were either **** scared (big brave Marty Skrtel) or past it since September (Gerrard)

We didn't play well, we've played 15-20 more games than Villa (at a guess) we looked tired.
Villa played exactly as they were, the underdogs with nothing to lose and everything to gain.

It's player recruitment that needs sorting out - whoever is responsible for it.
Not the coaching side of the football club

[Shaggy]

Basically done with Brendan after that, the team were gutless, set up badly and has far too many passengers. That game was like stepping back in time to the start of the season when he stubbornly stuck to a system that didn't work for anyone. If he can't get those players to fight for the cause in a cup semi-final then it's time to go. Even the basics aren't there. The whole season was an opportunity and he squandered it. Sack him off.

I think I agree.

Brendan has gone from looking like a bright coach who has come up with the answers, to someone whose thinking appears muddled. Almost trying to be too clever. In almost every game we play we'll have two or three lads playing in 3 different positions. The team often uses two or three systems in a game. The players won't know their arse from their elbow as they are in a constant state of flux.

If Klopp came on telly right now and said he'd love the LFC job, I'd take him straight away.

[Marvel]

Definitions of what it is to be classed as young footballers are definitely changing. Skrtel, Mignolet, lovren, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, balotelli and lambert cant really be classed as youngsters.

Sterling, coutinho, can, markovic and moreno yes but there's plenty of experience in that matchday squad. Whether its being used correctly is a different question.