Brendan Rodgers

[cream]

My comment on Brendan Rogers having seen him over the last three years and seen him operate under different levels of stress based on results is the following.

No one can take away from him that he, with Luis Suarez created the most attacking exciting team I have seen from Liverpool since 1988. That success cannot be sniffed at. He did this with a combination of an inherited squad and some of his own players and with youth which he brought through.

At times this season Liverpool looked like they would recapture that sort of form and indeed we did for a bout 8 weeks. Things derailed roughly about the same time Sterling lost concentration and Gerrard came back. THese two factors destabilised the team in my mind.

What I see about Brendan is that he communicates with the press very well, but I have a nagging doubt about whether he dominates the team with his personality as great managers do.

THe interview done by Sterling suggests that this is not the case.

A top manager needs to bend all the players towards his point of view vision and have everybody on side and even if they are not on side they should understand the consequences, and understand their position within the team.

I am not sure that Brendan does this, but I do think that the likes of Shankly, Paisely, LVG, Ferguson, Wenger and Mourihno and other top managers did or do.

THe bottom line is tha I beleive that Brendan is a great coach, but will never be a great manager. I may be premature in my assessment, but I think he is probably too empathetic, and probably not enough sociopathic.

To succeed you need to have a steel drive. Not sure Brendan has this, but as a coach he is up there at the top.

THis suggests that Liverpool would need a Director Of Football model whilst Brendan remains as a manager.

thats how I see the situation.

Great post

By the way, you're a muppet.

[The Birdman]

Caught up on the last 2 pages, groundhog day again from the usual posts.

Here's the question no-one is answering -
LFC buy young, promising talent. The 'manager' needs to be a coach, someone who can teach and improve these players on the training ground day in day out to the extent that they improve enough to make us successful on the pitch or sell them for a profit.

With that model in mind, name me anyone (realistic) who can do a better job than Rodgers.
And before you start Klopp isn't a coach, he's a manager (a very good one, but a manager).

[baitman]

its probably a fair comment to say that rodgers overachieved due to the goal contributions of suarez and sturridge, but to give him credit for it and then say our coming second buys him more time is bordering on farcical.
we would have still been amazing going forward, and maybe also slightly better in defence if we had one of the more established but less 'fancy' managers at the helm.

for all the attacking midfielders we have accumulated we still dont have many lads that we can rely on to tighten things up and make us a harder to beat team. some flair when going forward is great, but the lack of strength and power in our midfield allows other teams to simply bounce through and put undue pressure on our overexposed defenders.

[Bender]

it seems you aren't allowed to criticise/have an opinion on Rodgers on this forum.

[dww]

it was a joke

One with the twin disadvantages of being unfunny and feeling mean spirited/antagonistic.

[The_weatherman]

Caught up on the last 2 pages, groundhog day again from the usual posts.

Here's the question no-one is answering -
LFC buy young, promising talent. The 'manager' needs to be a coach, someone who can teach and improve these players on the training ground day in day out to the extent that they improve enough to make us successful on the pitch or sell them for a profit.

With that model in mind, name me anyone (realistic) who can do a better job than Rodgers.
And before you start Klopp isn't a coach, he's a manager (a very good one, but a manager).

Is that strictly accurate? I always thought Klopp worked under a DOF at Dortmund and that he's more a coach just like Rodgers?

[Bender]

One with the twin disadvantages of being unfunny and feeling mean spirited/antagonistic.

That's the one

[baitman]

it seems you aren't allowed to criticise/have an opinion on Rodgers on this forum.

you need to ensure you use the smileys better to facilitate a better understanding of your attempts at humour

[dww]

it seems you aren't allowed to criticise/have an opinion on Rodgers on this forum.

I don't really think that is fair.

For a start we have allowed you to express what ever opinion you want pretty much however you want to. We have asked for a civil level of discourse and that you engage with other peoples arguments.

If you think there is an absence of opinion or criticism in this thread then I think you must reading it very selectively.

[Bender]

I don't really think that is fair.

For a start we have allowed you to express what ever opinion you want pretty much however you want to. We have asked for a civil level of discourse and that you engage with other peoples arguments.

If you think there is an absence of opinion or criticism in this thread then I think you must reading it very selectively.

hold on ...nah not worth it,i'll take on board what you say and shut my mouth and just observe the forums instead. last post
Novice owners[in football] and a novice manager walking hand in hand.

[gratziani]

When we brought Brendan in I didn't want a young inexperienced manager to go with our inexperienced in football owners ,

I felt it was risky on all levels and should have got a manager with a great reputation to help in all levels of the club or even the DOF route which they wanted , but when Brendan refused to work with that I admired his confidence/belief when they could of quite easily said no thanks and gone for someone who would work that way ,

Now I agree he has made mistakes , but so did Rafa and Kenny as well , and I never wanted them sacked either ,

I still see a future with him as our manager with the right attacking players , if we bring another manager in won't we have more upheaval and be starting this all again ,

I think people forget that our squad is one of the youngest in the league who this season lost two of the leaders for two different reasons , Suarez leaving and Gerrard leaving in mind ,

[Maxiedge]

It's strange. I want someone to be liable for this season's performance and, in particular, the signings in the summer, but I don't want it to be Brendan.

The season before was just one of the best I've had as a Liverpool fan.

[Lecter]

Is that strictly accurate? I always thought Klopp worked under a DOF at Dortmund and that he's more a coach just like Rodgers?

So did I

De Boer also works under a DOF doesnt he??

I actually reckon if Brendan had agreed / or would agree to work under a DOF he'd be completely safe this summer

[The Birdman]

Is that strictly accurate? I always thought Klopp worked under a DOF at Dortmund and that he's more a coach just like Rodgers?

Dortmund have a Sporting Director.
I think that is different to what we understand or think we need from a Director of Football.

Problem with the DoF role at LFC is are they solely responsible for buying/selling first team players?
Who authorises buying in youth players?
Who is in charge of the academy and it's philosophies?

As I understand it currently the committee does the first one and Rodgers is in charge of the others.
The youth set up is very highly rated, why change that again 2 years after the last change?

[Phoenix07]

I still see a future with him as our manager with the right attacking players , if we bring another manager in won't we have more upheaval and be starting this all again ,

Look at Swansea and Southampton, but especially the former. Huw Jenkins has been brilliant in terms of hiring managers based on a primary philosophy.

I am behind the notion that if Rodgers is to stay, he needs a DOF/Sporting/Technical Director who has been through a lot. I'd love us to get Cruyff personally.