Brendan Rodgers

[Muddled]

That wasnt our good run, that's randomly selected results. We lost to villa and West ham in the middle of that lot.

We won both games 2-0.

[Kenneth]

We won both games 2-0.

I'm obviously thinking of reverse fixtures.

[Muddled]

Yeah, we lost to those two in consecutive league games near the start of the season.

The new formation certainly wasn't infallible; The three points at Southampton were a good old smash and grab with a hefty slab of luck thrown in too. But Rodgers successfully turned around a season that was going tits up by admitting fault and working on a system best suited to the players he had. I think dismissing this run is a disservice to Rodgers.

However, the games where it mattered (Manchester United at home and Arsenal away) is where we showed our frailty. Once these were lost, the final sucker punch was Villa in the FA Cup semi-final. Our heads completely went at this point and it's no real surprise to see the season end the way it has.

[Maxiedge]

The 'good run' was down to Lucas and to a lesser extent, Sakho. Two players that were out of favour with the boss.

[Alex]

People seem to find lots of reasons why its not down to Brendan when we play well, but when we play badly its usually always the managers fault.

Im not saying he is a saint, but criticism needs to be fair. Claiming that run was down to Lucas and Sakho is a little unfair on the manager.

[dww]

People seem to find lots of reasons why its not down to Brendan when we play well, but when we play badly its usually always the managers fault.

Im not saying he is a saint, but criticism needs to be fair. Claiming that run was down to Lucas and Sakho is a little unfair on the manager.

I tend to agree but there is clearly something in the criticism that Rodgers doesn't seem to trust those two. Having said that after the formation change, when fit those to played. A significant issue appears to be they have unique properties in our squad which Rodgers/the committee doesn't/don't appear to select for when buying.

[Maxiedge]

People seem to find lots of reasons why its not down to Brendan when we play well, but when we play badly its usually always the managers fault.

Im not saying he is a saint, but criticism needs to be fair. Claiming that run was down to Lucas and Sakho is a little unfair on the manager.

This isn't hindsight, this was something I was saying at the time and I wasn't the only one. Pre-Lucas, we were ****e. Post-Lucas, we've been ****e.

He's not the greatest footballer on the planet but he's the only one with game intelligence in the entire squad!!

[BigChief]

This isn't hindsight, this was something I was saying at the time and I wasn't the only one. Pre-Lucas, we were ****e. Post-Lucas, we've been ****e.

He's not the greatest footballer on the planet but he's the only one with game intelligence in the entire squad!!

And at the time there were plenty of posters explaining why Lucas, especially, wasn't playing: Gerrard. Both Lucas and Gerrard wasn't working so one was to be dropped: Lucas.

Sakho was a little harder to determine but probably down to having to give their £20m defender a run out early doors.

I don't blame Rodgers for giving Lovren a fair run (obviously do blame him for buying him though) but for the Gerrard over Lucas selection it turned my hair white. But I acknowledge now if Rodgers had dropped Gerrard he would have been out of a job already. It still ended up costing us a CL place but what the hell.

[Alex]

Think Sakho won his trust over when he came into the side. He seemed to have a lot of issues settling (I think Sakho himself said he couldnt settle because of the language issue, which is getting better now) and storming off before the Mersea derby or whatever he did wouldnt have helped his cause.

Lucas is a bit tougher to explain from my pov. When he first came in he seemed to really rate Lucas, getting him to go out and watch teams for him and keeping him around during his lay off. Then when he came back he never got a sniff until injuries forced him to try him again.

Brendan seems to give players a chance to prove themselves and I think since being given the chance they did. Its just after a lay off again the manager seems reluctant to rely on them.

[The Birdman]

I think he should stay.
He deserves a season without the Gerrard situation looming over him, everyone knows our results and performances this season have been better without Gerrard in the team.

Should only change the manager if it is 100% guaranteed to improve significantly with his replacement.
Ancelotti is the only manager who would guarantee that IMO, and he won't come so FSG should stick with Rodgers, back him in the summer with big money to buy a striker and demand improvement.

[Yozza]

We went on a 'good' run - so what? Is that enough to save his job?

& when you analyze that 'good' run it actually wasn't that good - we were very lucky in quite a few of the games this season - namely

Southampton H/A
Swansea A
Burnley A
Leicester H
QPR A

& truly awful against

West Ham A
Palace H/A
Sunderland H
Hull H/A
West Brom A
Villa H

In fact how often have we actually played well this season? Spurs away? City at home? Please feel free to remind me of any more

I honestly can't think of any games where we came close to hitting the form of last season - nowhere near

Just look at these results - shocking; especially against the so called 'lower teams'

Liverpool 2–1 Southampton
Manchester City 3–1 Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur 0–3 Liverpool
Liverpool 0–1 Aston Villa
West Ham United 3–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1–1 Everton Liverpool
Liverpool 2–1 West Bromwich Albion
Queens Park Rangers 2–3 Liverpool
Liverpool 0–0 Hull City Liverpool
Newcastle United 1–0 Liverpool
Liverpool 1–2 Chelsea Liverpool
Crystal Palace 3–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1–0 Stoke City
Leicester City 1–3 Liverpool
Liverpool 0–0 Sunderland
Manchester United 3–0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2–2 Arsenal
Burnley 0–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 4–1 Swansea City
Liverpool 2–2 Leicester City
Sunderland 0–1 Liverpool
Aston Villa 0–2 Liverpool
Liverpool 2–0 West Ham United
Everton 0–0 Liverpool
Liverpool 3–2 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 0–2 Liverpool
Liverpool 2–1 Manchester City
Liverpool 2–0 Burnley
Swansea City 0–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1–2 Manchester United
Arsenal 4–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 2–0 Newcastle United
West Bromwich Albion 0–0 Liverpool
Hull City 1–0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2–1 Queens Park Rangers
Chelsea 1–1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1–3 Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Liverpool

It's been a ****e season - I'm amazed that it was good enough to finish 5th

I can't see it happening but looking at those results - I wouldn't be at all bothered if he got the boot

[captainfog]

Our good run felt like it could collapse at any moment. We were playing crap teams, playing OK and getting the points. The opposition were getting several excellent chances to score every game and fluffing their lines. As good runs go it wasn't very convincing and it is of no surprise that it all came crashing down.

A better manager shouldn't need a 3 year plan. With some proper organisation and an actual game plan then this squad is good enough to get in the top 4. We should have comfortably done so this season.

[Yozza]

Our good run felt like it could collapse at any moment. We were playing crap teams, playing OK and getting the points. The opposition were getting several excellent chances to score every game and fluffing their lines. As good runs go it wasn't very convincing and it is of no surprise that it all came crashing down.

A better manager shouldn't need a 3 year plan. With some proper organisation and an actual game plan then this squad is good enough to get in the top 4. We should have comfortably done so this season.

[Fierce]

I think there's a lot of revisionism concerning our good run

Late last year Rodgers was ****, the team was ****, he had to go

Then we switched to 3-4-3 and everybody was enjoying watching us play again. We were attacking, we were creative, our passing and movement was great and we were unlucky to not blow teams away

I'm not 100% convinced that Rodgers should be our manager, and certainly not if someone like Ancelotti would come, but it's not accurate to completely ignore all the good under him

[Maxiedge]

I think there's a lot of revisionism concerning our good run

Late last year Rodgers was ****, the team was ****, he had to go

Then we switched to 3-4-3 and everybody was enjoying watching us play again. We were attacking, we were creative, our passing and movement was great and we were unlucky to not blow teams away

I'm not 100% convinced that Rodgers should be our manager, and certainly not if someone like Ancelotti would come, but it's not accurate to completely ignore all the good under him

The good run at the time felt like we'd turned a corner and would at least have some consistency to our game. I wasn't expecting to win every game till the end of the season but maybe something like 3W 1D 1L out of every 5 games. These last 2 months have shown that it was just a fluke, imo.