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    I miss young Gerrard.
    Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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      I miss Gerrard 2004-2009.

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        Sorry I didn't know where to park this

        Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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          I miss Sami, Xabi and Dirk.
          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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            Originally posted by Tee View Post
            I miss Sami, Xabi and Dirk.
            Me too Tee, me too

            On a side point, looking at that reminded me we had some great characters back then. I'm not sure we do these days.

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              Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
              Me too Tee, me too

              On a side point, looking at that reminded me we had some great characters back then. I'm not sure we do these days.
              A bit corny I know, but we had real men then. Now we do lack the physical presence around the pitch IMO and maybe get bullied more.
              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                Originally posted by Tee View Post
                A bit corny I know, but we had real men then. Now we do lack the physical presence around the pitch IMO and maybe get bullied more.
                You corny fool Yeah agree, we're lacking leaders now in the team. Around that time we had virtually an entire team of natural leaders:

                Reina, Carragher, Hyypia, Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Kuyt.

                All of those guys stood up to be counted and had tons of experience. We're very short in that regard these days.

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                  He has got to be pushed further forward when Lucas comes back.

                  Not sure two games per week are doing him any favours either.

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                    Personally, I think he's holding back the evolution of our style. Like Carragher he needs to be our inspiration from the bench/training. This is just my opinion and he could (I hope) prove me totally wrong.
                    One tit for another.

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                      Steven Gerrard is not the problem, it is the ****e around him. Put better players around him and Luis, and we will get better performances and results. It really is that simple.
                      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                        So Tee, basically you're hoping what I'm hoping. Rafa buys him for £15million and surrounds him with better players.
                        One tit for another.

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                          Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                          Personally, I think he's holding back the evolution of our style. Like Carragher he needs to be our inspiration from the bench/training. This is just my opinion and he could (I hope) prove me totally wrong.
                          I can't see BR dropping him, I really can't. I mean how many managers in football would have the balls to drop him ? Ferguson, Mourinho and possibly Wenger.
                          http://www.youtube.com/user/LFCHistory?feature=mhee

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                            Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                            So Tee, basically you're hoping what I'm hoping. Rafa buys him for £15million and surrounds him with better players.
                            Not quite.
                            "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                              Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                              Personally, I think he's holding back the evolution of our style. Like Carragher he needs to be our inspiration from the bench/training. This is just my opinion and he could (I hope) prove me totally wrong.


                              I think he can play a bigger part than Carragher does, but 90 minutes twice a week is too much for him now.

                              Originally posted by Tee View Post
                              Steven Gerrard is not the problem, it is the ****e around him. Put better players around him and Luis, and we will get better performances and results. It really is that simple.
                              I think it's a bit of both mate. We can't and shouldn't rely on him anymore and BR is asking him to adapt his game.

                              Hate to say it but he's been really, really poor this season. Is it age? Injuries caught up with him? Not sure but I don't think you can blame they players around him for his form.

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                                Agree with Tee to an extent, put him right up there with Suarez and leave DM to Lucas + Allen/Henderson. Sterling on the left and Suso on the right. Its the best we can offer Gerrard but he has to promise not to drop deep to try his hollywood balls too often.
                                One tit for another.

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