Rafa Watch

[Vermilion]

Well considering i don't rate him at all then not very well. He did well/lucky to get that bunch of players to win an CL, but there was no true power house at the point in time. The Milan side had won 1 league either side of that in 10 years, Spanish football was at it's lowest point of the last 2 decades* and our football was amidst a power shift from us/mancs to Chelsea.

Aside from that he did well at Valencia (see *), but his finishing positions with you lot were on the whole nothing to shout about.

You'd think Wenger could have managed to win it at that time then would'nt you, with all that going for a team wanting to win it.

As for his finishing positions, i'd like to see Wenger work under a similar pair of ******s and achieve anything much, look how Dein leaving has effected Arsenal, so don't for one minute under estimate working relations/conditions at a big club.

With the right owners, we'd have been just fine under Rafa. imho, instead, we were a club in turmoil, bit like Arsenal now, only worse.

[Shaggy]

I've been here before with you - you use ****e, unreliable sources. Like that.

Fact is those three clubs outspent us this summer, the Mancs, Chelsea and now City are richer than us and spend more. Spin it however you like with your ****e sources.

Wenger's achievements on a shoestring are an exception, as well you know. But even that well has run dry, as Arsenal are ****ing wank and will do well to finish in the top 5. But then they're not really your team, are they Speedy.

[GraciousGooner]

I've been here before with you - you use ****e, unreliable sources. Like that.

Fact is those three clubs outspent us this summer, the Mancs, Chelsea and now City are richer than us and spend more. Spin it however you like with your ****e sources.

Wenger's achievements on a shoestring are an exception, as well you know. But even that well has run dry, as Arsenal are ****ing wank and will do well to finish in the top 5. But then they're not really your team, are they Speedy.

Massively outspent. Erm, hardly. It's an excuse you need to stop using. P4P Everton are a better side than you.

[Shaggy]

Point out where I said "massively outspent".

P4P Everton are a better side than you.

LMAO.

I suppose this is your source for that pile of ****e...

http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/87237/default.aspx

Which is the most flawed, nonsensical and meaningless 'study' I've ever seen.

Amazing the correlation between the amount of **** you talk and the struggles of the ****e team you pretend to support.

[Fredo]

Massively outspent. Erm, hardly. It's an excuse you need to stop using. P4P Everton are a better side than you.

Dude, jog on.

[PTP]

Massively outspent. Erm, hardly. It's an excuse you need to stop using. P4P Everton are a better side than you.

really! seriously....

trying to be as honest as possible here....

reina>>>>>>howard

baines>>>>enrique - i'll give them that one
Agger>>>>>distan
Jaigleka>>>>carra - due to age
johnson or kelly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hibbert

Downing>>>>>>bileytedonov
Lucas>>>>>>felllaini - though i would take fellaini in our squad
rodwell>>>>adam - i'm given them benefit of the doubt as rodwell has potential
Kuyt>>>>coleman - coleman is fast but dirk works hard

then up front well it's not even up for debate is it....

Suarez>>>>>>>>saha
Carroll>>>>>>>>anichebe
Bellamy>>>>>>>>Velios


And i'm missing two key players out from each side....arguably each sides most productive player...


Gerrard>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cah ill

[Shaggy]

Speedy means pound for pound - another totally meaningless way of looking at things.

[PTP]

ah sorry i may have jumped the gun - by P4P i assumed player for player - did you mean pound for pound?

either way **** it....Everton are wank, that's their own fault.

[Lee]

Speedy?!

[Shaggy]

The small time Manc WUM who used to spam this forum with his obsessed drivel, just like this cunt, before he got banned. Look at his posts - he's clearly a Manc - the Gooner ****e is just a facade, and it's obviously that Speedy tit.

[Lee]

Ah I see, thanks.

He's clearly a WUM cunt. Uneducated too.

[Vermilion]

The small time Manc WUM who used to spam this forum with his obsessed drivel, just like this cunt, before he got banned. Look at his posts - he's clearly a Manc - the Gooner ****e is just a facade, and it's obviously that Speedy tit.

Ahhhhh, so, the plot thickens, i thought he must have been a gooner because we had'nt heard from him of late, and it fitted with Arse being ****e, thought he was waiting till things looked up before coming back to post, but got fed up of waiting so turned up here today anyway.

Tbh, now i think about it, i got him mixed up with that nice Tottenham Hotspur fan that posted on here, he was a mate of someone here so we knew he was credible and who he said he was, forgotten his name now, someone will remember.

[magicalbarnes]

The ideal scenario would be Rafa coming back to work under Kenny.

[Shaggy]

Look at his posts - most of them are about the Mancs, Rooney or whoever.

No Arsenal fan I've ever met has been so 'sympathetic' or admiring of the Mancs as this WUM. Not one. It's Speedy. And if not then he's just a Manc.

[Vermilion]

The ideal scenario would be Rafa coming back to work under Kenny.

Don't know if it would, but it would be interesting to see how it worked, if things were'nt going well, and it was Kenny's idea.