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    Originally posted by Glenn Hysen View Post
    Agreed. But there are plenty on this site who gets upset when Rafa is criticized....

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      Originally posted by Glenn Hysen View Post
      Agreed. But there are plenty on this site who gets upset when Rafa is criticized....
      Which is included in his point
      Hello mert.

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        Originally posted by Fivex View Post
        Which is included in his point
        Shaggy is one of them who feels the need to defend Rafa here on Est. That was part of my point.
        "Justice has been done."

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          I don't know for sure but he doesn't seem 'upset' from where I am.
          Hello mert.

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            Originally posted by Glenn Hysen View Post
            Shaggy is one of them who feels the need to defend Rafa here on Est. That was part of my point.
            Completely different. A Liverpool fan defending a Liverpool manager's record at Liverpool FC is different to other people getting upset over others' feelings about the manager of another team

            He's gone, he's there, he's not our manager any more. If you or others want to stick the boot in to him now - that's absolutely fine by me. For whatever reason it doesn't appear to be fine for me and whoever else to wish the guy luck in peace, and we have our support questioned and called names LOL.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              Completely different. A Liverpool fan defending a Liverpool manager's record at Liverpool FC is different to other people getting upset over others' feelings about the manager of another team

              He's gone, he's there, he's not our manager any more. If you or others want to stick the boot in to him now - that's absolutely fine by me. For whatever reason it doesn't appear to be fine for me and whoever else to wish the guy luck in peace, and we have our support questioned and called names LOL.
              I don't call names but I do hope as allways that Chelski and their plastic fans fail in every competition.

              Merry Christmas everyone! YNWA!
              "Justice has been done."

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                I know you haven't. I haven't been called names personally (directly) either, but having my/our support called into question, and moreover being labelled 'Chelsea cheerleaders' is playground stuff - reductive and not necessary.

                I've started drinking
                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  I know you haven't. I haven't been called names personally (directly) either, but having my/our support called into question, and moreover being labelled 'Chelsea cheerleaders' is playground stuff - reductive and not necessary.

                  I've started drinking


                  I'm starting in one hour.
                  "Justice has been done."

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                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    I take it then no-one here wanted Kenny to do well at Blackburn. Interesting. I was happy for him, especially when he stopped United winning the title. Each to their own. Personally I don't understand why so many get so upset about what other people think, even if what other people think has absolutely no bearing on anything. Funny old game.


                    Some common sense. I was just chuckling to myself reading this silly debate. Even though I've frequently taken part in it myself. It really is silly and bemusingly polarising .
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Rafa's done more than enough to have earned a giant slab of goodwill and Chelsea? Well who gives a ****. It's not like we've a long running rivalry. 8 years or do and we've been ****ing bollocks for the last 3 of those. If Rafa doing well there means Ferguson getting ****ed like the rabbit then it's aaaaaaawl good.

                      Chelsea... They're ****ing nothing to me. Just today's version of Forest (for the youngsters out there we didn't like them either).
                      A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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                        Shaggy, Nigel, Barnes, etc.

                        I hate this tribal ****e. The idea that our brains are so small that we can't manage the complexities of liking Rafa but not liking Chelsea. The idea that liking someone who works for a rival club means we're not proper supporters of our own club. The idea that fans who support a different club are "scum of the earth".

                        My nephew is a Chelsea fan. He's not scum. But then he knows better than to generalise and stereotype. Maybe it's because his dad is a Liverpool fan, I dunno.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                          I really like Chelsea's female physio.

                          Hope this helps

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                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            It doesn't matter - all that matters is it's not us. The rest is making up degrees of emnity to suit, over a team who are no more our rivals now than Blackburn were in the mid 90s. In fact you could very reasonably argue that Blackburn were much more our rivals than Chelsea are now, who are not in our league. Anyone who believes we can compete with them currently is deluded. We've gone round in circles about this, I don't see the big deal or why on earth it bothers other people so much. I don't like any football club other than my own, and I hate Manchester United way more than all the rest. It's that simple. Good luck Rafa, come on Liverpool and Merry Christmas.

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                              [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM056FLmg0"]The Young Ones Listen to Us, Squabbling, Bickering.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                Vivian's right though.

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