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    #8641
    Nice try.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #8642
      Originally posted by ronanm View Post
      Agreed. I think, in hindsight, he did a great job keeping us going considering the pressure he was under with G&H. Pity we didn't win the PL under him - came damned close, and we could have had another European Cup too (why he didn't start with Crouch I'll never know).

      His stint at Chelsea has proved he is a great manager. If BR doesn't perform next season I'd like Rafa back.


      I was often critical of Rafa. But, if BR was to leave, I'd definitely take RB back :-)

      If Utd had appointed Rafa, they'd go on to dominate Europe (not just the Prem). Thank **** Fergie hates Rafa!
      Another MASSIVE game

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        #8643
        I'd rather we looked forward than go back to Rafa. He had a fair crack at it

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          #8644
          Originally posted by Sarb View Post
          I'd rather we looked forward than go back to Rafa. He had a fair crack at it
          Hello mert.

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            #8645
            The arguments about him among our fan base will never stop until he gets another go at it so for that reason alone I think we have to do it at some point.

            He is an excellent manager, he got worn down by the circus that was the club at the time.I thought it was time for a change but not the change we got, that was the biggest mistake IMO, not sacking him.

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              #8646
              Originally posted by Fivex View Post
              Just my opinion. With a team including Reina, Carra, Hyypia, Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres in their prime when the league wasn't as competitive as is now, we should have won the title. Yeah towards the end of his reign there was huge conflicts with owners etc, but before that, he had a very good team/squad assembled.

              Not going to turn this into a was he great or wasn't he great debate. Undoubtedly a huge achievement in 2005 and a great coach. Just makes absolutely no sense in him coming back now. Need to look forward. Whether Rodgers is the man it's open to debate, but I'm not of the view that 'If Rodgers doesn't do it, I'd bring Rafa back'.

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                #8647
                Originally posted by G View Post
                The arguments about him among our fan base will never stop until he gets another go at it so for that reason alone I think we have to do it at some point.

                He is an excellent manager, he got worn down by the circus that was the club at the time.I thought it was time for a change but not the change we got, that was the biggest mistake IMO, not sacking him.
                I think that sums it up to be honest. It was time for a change. But the change that was made was absolutely ridiculous. No way should he have been sacked and replaced with Hodgson. Was an absolute joke

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                  #8648
                  Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                  Just my opinion. With a team including Reina, Carra, Hyypia, Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres in their prime when the league wasn't as competitive as is now, we should have won the title. Yeah towards the end of his reign there was huge conflicts with owners etc, but before that, he had a very good team/squad assembled.

                  Not going to turn this into a was he great or wasn't he great debate. Undoubtedly a huge achievement in 2005 and a great coach. Just makes absolutely no sense in him coming back now. Need to look forward. Whether Rodgers is the man it's open to debate, but I'm not of the view that 'If Rodgers doesn't do it, I'd bring Rafa back'.

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                    #8649
                    Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                    Just my opinion. With a team including Reina, Carra, Hyypia, Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres in their prime when the league wasn't as competitive as is now, we should have won the title. Yeah towards the end of his reign there was huge conflicts with owners etc, but before that, he had a very good team/squad assembled.

                    Not going to turn this into a was he great or wasn't he great debate. Undoubtedly a huge achievement in 2005 and a great coach. Just makes absolutely no sense in him coming back now. Need to look forward. Whether Rodgers is the man it's open to debate, but I'm not of the view that 'If Rodgers doesn't do it, I'd bring Rafa back'.
                    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                    I think that is quite frankly nonsense. While the league may not have been as variable the other teams around us were far stronger and united had ronaldo scoring for fun and Ferdinand and Vidic at the top their from with an excellent van der Saar behind them. Chelsea and arsenal were also undeniably far strong sides too. Blinkered at best. Between 05 - 09 was probably the strongest them prem has ever been.

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                      #8650
                      Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                      Just my opinion. With a team including Reina, Carra, Hyypia, Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres in their prime when the league wasn't as competitive as is now, we should have won the title. Yeah towards the end of his reign there was huge conflicts with owners etc, but before that, he had a very good team/squad assembled.

                      Not going to turn this into a was he great or wasn't he great debate. Undoubtedly a huge achievement in 2005 and a great coach. Just makes absolutely no sense in him coming back now. Need to look forward. Whether Rodgers is the man it's open to debate, but I'm not of the view that 'If Rodgers doesn't do it, I'd bring Rafa back'.
                      The league hasn't become more competitive, the standard of the league has dropped.

                      If we had the 2009 side now, with Rafa as manager I think we would win the title.

                      The league in 2009 was a much harder league to win in than it would be now with that squad.
                      The times they are a changin'.

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                        #8651
                        Originally posted by Fivex View Post


                        Was gonna say something myself. Then was gonna point out 'fair crack' or not, he still did a brilliant job.

                        Then thought, **** it, what's the point!
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          #8652
                          I was picking up on the 'fair crack' comment, which is patently untrue.

                          For the record I'm happy with the direction we're heading in and wouldn't want him back next season at all. In a few years, if things haven't gone to plan with Rogers then he'd have to be up for consideration.
                          Hello mert.

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                            #8653
                            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                            I think that is quite frankly nonsense. While the league may not have been as variable the other teams around us were far stronger and united had ronaldo scoring for fun and Ferdinand and Vidic at the top their from with an excellent van der Saar behind them. Chelsea and arsenal were also undeniably far strong sides too. Blinkered at best. Between 05 - 09 was probably the strongest them prem has ever been.

                            Agreed, much stronger then.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #8654
                              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                              I think that is quite frankly nonsense. While the league may not have been as variable the other teams around us were far stronger and united had ronaldo scoring for fun and Ferdinand and Vidic at the top their from with an excellent van der Saar behind them. Chelsea and arsenal were also undeniably far strong sides too. Blinkered at best. Between 05 - 09 was probably the strongest them prem has ever been.

                              The league is weaker for sure

                              But we should have won the league that year & the handshake was mostly about people moving forward and this whole Rafa coming back thingy is actually getting cringeworthy.

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                                #8655
                                Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                                I think that is quite frankly nonsense. While the league may not have been as variable the other teams around us were far stronger and united had ronaldo scoring for fun and Ferdinand and Vidic at the top their from with an excellent van der Saar behind them. Chelsea and arsenal were also undeniably far strong sides too. Blinkered at best. Between 05 - 09 was probably the strongest them prem has ever been.



                                Originally posted by Gibbo View Post
                                The league hasn't become more competitive, the standard of the league has dropped.

                                If we had the 2009 side now, with Rafa as manager I think we would win the title.

                                The league in 2009 was a much harder league to win in than it would be now with that squad.


                                Originally posted by RedReet View Post


                                Was gonna say something myself. Then was gonna point out 'fair crack' or not, he still did a brilliant job.

                                Then thought, **** it, what's the point!

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