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    His workrate and movement off the ball is very good. He has been quite frustrating and has contributed little directly so far, but he is certainly an intelligent player. Perhaps the formation isn't quite right and he needs to develop a better understanding with the players around him.

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      Originally posted by vlahka View Post
      Once we get some proper strikers that are actually there and not off broken, he'll get more used to playing with them. He's the same as Coutinho, needs some consistency in the players around him. Once thats in he will know how to read them and he'll be an excellent player for us. One to be patient with.
      talent is there just need it to shine through. Disappointed with him so far but early days.

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        Originally posted by Assassin View Post
        Jepp.......Firmy is a tired, useless immobile ****



        Roberto Firmino 12.4km
        Adam Lallana 11.9km
        Jordan Henderson 11.4km
        When Suarez was here, you could reel out stats saying Torres out ran him most games, I think Neville then compared key sprints per game and Suarez had about 50 to Torres' 10 so all these stats are meaningless in isolation

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          I feel there is a large case of perception affecting judgement here.
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            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
            I feel there is a large case of perception affecting judgement here.
            in what sense?

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              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
              in what sense?
              Basically people have an preconception about a player and their performance and that affects their bias of a players performance.

              People talk about Firmino being anonymous. He made the most tackles, had the most touches of our attacking players made the most chances and was generally very good.
              Last edited by Mattshark; 28-12-15, 12:47 AM.
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                Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                Basically people have an preconception about a player and their performance and that affects their bias of a players performance.

                People talk about Firmino being anonymous. He made the most tackles, had the most touches of our attacking players made the most chances and was generally very good.
                Yea I seem to remember him coming back and winning the ball on several occasions and obviously bagged an assist too.
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                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  He's a player that if we get him adjusted we will be adding a finishing touch to our build up play. We need this lad to click & that'll only happen with games.
                  Agree with that. Let's see if his confidence improves after setting up the winner.
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                    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                    Basically people have an preconception about a player and their performance and that affects their bias of a players performance.
                    I could copy and paste this to reply to any of your Benteke posts. [emoji3]
                    Are we winning?

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                      Shut up nigel

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                        Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                        I could copy and paste this to reply to any of your Benteke posts. [emoji3]
                        You could, but there is nothing to support that idea with Benteke's play. When you look at his stats they back up the idea of him being meh.
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                          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                          You could, but there is nothing to support that idea with Benteke's play. When you look at his stats they back up the idea of him being meh.
                          Yeah stats show that he's been more productive than Firmino. You're very selective with your use of them.
                          Are we winning?

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                            Ozil was absolute dog**** last season. He has loads of time.

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                              Originally posted by G View Post
                              Ozil was absolute dog**** last season. He has loads of time.

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                                Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                                You could, but there is nothing to support that idea with Benteke's play. When you look at his stats they back up the idea of him being meh.
                                im sure a few games back Benteke had a 70% pass completion ratio and you pointed out it was cobblers and we needed better. Firmino mustered up a 72% against Leicester and he played well. So does that mean Benteke had only been 2% of the golden marker? Poor Big Chris. So near yet so far!
                                A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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