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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    completely agree. I just didn't get why people kept talking about "Benteke not fitting in with our system" as we actually don't have one at the moment & haven't since Suarez left.

    Lets hope that Rodgers has one in mind that plays to our strengths and keeps the balance in the side.
    The success that we had when Suarez was here lends people to believe that's Rodgers style and comfort zone every manager has one. I know we can say, well we had Suarez who is one of the world's best but that's the evidence we have plus what Rodgers preaches as his ideal system no?

    We all support the club and want this Juggernaut of a striker to do well, but after some of the expensive failures we've had pessimism is bound to set in.

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      Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
      The success that we had when Suarez was here lends people to believe that's Rodgers style and comfort zone every manager has one. I know we can say, well we had Suarez who is one of the world's best but that's the evidence we have plus what Rodgers preaches as his ideal system no?

      We all support the club and want this Juggernaut of a striker to do well, but after some of the expensive failures we've had pessimism is bound to set in.
      Rodgers ideal system is 433, which we will play this season. He changed to the diamond to fit in the SAS. Prior to LFC he'd never had a speedy and skilful front man at the tip.

      We all pine for the diamond for obvious reasons, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a Liverpool side any more than I did that season. But we can forget about seeing that again under Brendan.

      We will only see the diamond again if plan A (the 433) goes wrong. If Plan A goes wrong we could see anything. Rodgers is an inventive coach and he tends to come up with something. But I hope for once he has signed players that actually suit his preferred system - which is 433.
      Forwards.......

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        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
        Rodgers ideal system is 433, which we will play this season. He changed to the diamond to fit in the SAS. Prior to LFC he'd never had a speedy and skilful front man at the tip.

        We all pine for the diamond for obvious reasons, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a Liverpool side any more than I did that season. But we can forget about seeing that again under Brendan.

        We will only see the diamond again if plan A (the 433) goes wrong. If Plan A goes wrong we could see anything. Rodgers is an inventive coach and he tends to come up with something. But I hope for once he has signed players that actually suit his preferred system - which is 433.
        He is that indeed which is his only redeeming feature. But a significant one.

        I'm not a fan of 433 unless you have big money to be honest. Its too defensive and you always need a spark from somewhere to win you games (as opposed to diamond where its a bit more gung ho). Chelsea have Hazard to get them out of the sh*t more often than he should and City have Aguero, Silva and Toure.

        If Firmino could be that spark player then great because Coutinho is not (great player but not a dig you out of the hole player).
        One tit for another.

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          Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
          The success that we had when Suarez was here lends people to believe that's Rodgers style and comfort zone every manager has one. I know we can say, well we had Suarez who is one of the world's best but that's the evidence we have plus what Rodgers preaches as his ideal system no?

          We all support the club and want this Juggernaut of a striker to do well, but after some of the expensive failures we've had pessimism is bound to set in.
          I agree with Danny I think 4-3-3 and maybe 4-5-1 (vs better sides away) will be the way we play.

          I've been tying to be positive about this season but yeah I do get the pessimism and cautious approach

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            Originally posted by BigChief View Post
            He is that indeed which is his only redeeming feature. But a significant one.

            I'm not a fan of 433 unless you have big money to be honest. Its too defensive and you always need a spark from somewhere to win you games (as opposed to diamond where its a bit more gung ho). Chelsea have Hazard to get them out of the sh*t more often than he should and City have Aguero, Silva and Toure.

            If Firmino could be that spark player then great because Coutinho is not (great player but not a dig you out of the hole player).
            It depends very much on the players you have, you could have a gung ho 4-3-3 or a defensive one depending on how you set it up. I think our midfield 3 will be fairly attacking, if we play Coutinho as one of the midfield 3 you could imagine it almost as a 4-2-3-1 which worked well for us before. I see it more of a problem is we try to play someone like Coutinho in one of the wide forward positions which I don't think suits him. For me those two wide forward positions are key you need them to provide width (which isn't Coutinho's game) but also get in the box at the back post. The problem comes if your wide forwards get pushed back into midfield and it becomes 4-5-1 leaving the striker isolated. The other strategy is to try and get the fullbacks to provide the width allowing 3 forwards to play narrower, but that really needs an out and out DM to fill in the gaps, given the squad we have I doubt that will be the main way we play.
            Last edited by Exiled_red; 28-07-15, 03:21 PM.
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              When will he debut?

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                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                I agree with Danny I think 4-3-3 and maybe 4-5-1 (vs better sides away) will be the way we play.

                I've been tying to be positive about this season but yeah I do get the pessimism and cautious approach
                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                Rodgers ideal system is 433, which we will play this season. He changed to the diamond to fit in the SAS. Prior to LFC he'd never had a speedy and skilful front man at the tip.

                We all pine for the diamond for obvious reasons, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a Liverpool side any more than I did that season. But we can forget about seeing that again under Brendan.

                We will only see the diamond again if plan A (the 433) goes wrong. If Plan A goes wrong we could see anything. Rodgers is an inventive coach and he tends to come up with something. But I hope for once he has signed players that actually suit his preferred system - which is 433.

                OK, fair points. I guess it's just a wait and see approach until we kick off. I'm very interested in seeing Rodger's line up. I would assume a 4-2-3-1 would be more suitable than a 4-3-3 with Benteke on board, with Coutinho, Firmino and Ibe the three behind him.

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                  Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                  OK, fair points. I guess it's just a wait and see approach until we kick off. I'm very interested in seeing Rodger's line up. I would assume a 4-2-3-1 would be more suitable than a 4-3-3 with Benteke on board, with Coutinho, Firmino and Ibe the three behind him.
                  100% agree. Three dangerous offensive midfielders in their correct positions with ample cover behind.
                  One tit for another.

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                    Christian Benteke #25... crap.

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                      Just hasn't got around to changing his number yet i'd assume.

                      Surely gets #9
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                        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                        Rodgers ideal system is 433, which we will play this season. He changed to the diamond to fit in the SAS. Prior to LFC he'd never had a speedy and skilful front man at the tip.

                        We all pine for the diamond for obvious reasons, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a Liverpool side any more than I did that season. But we can forget about seeing that again under Brendan.

                        We will only see the diamond again if plan A (the 433) goes wrong. If Plan A goes wrong we could see anything. Rodgers is an inventive coach and he tends to come up with something. But I hope for once he has signed players that actually suit his preferred system - which is 433.
                        IF he does go back to 4-3-3 / 4-3-2-1 I think he's done

                        This will be the 4th season he's tried this if it doesn't work its going to be another switch in tactic. It's the old Einstein definition of madness imo
                        Last edited by Lecter; 29-07-15, 06:37 AM.
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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          IF he does go back to 4-3-3 / 4-3-2-1 I think he's done

                          This will be the 4th season he's tried this if it doesn't work its going to me another switch in tactic. It's the old Einstein definition of madness imo
                          It's nothing like the Einstein definition of madness if he tries it with different players. Particularly this year, as Benteke is a completely different type of player than he's had before at the focal point of the formation.

                          If that's the way he wants to play then it is clear to everyone, including Brendan, that this is his last chance to make it work.

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                            Originally posted by Saveloy View Post
                            It's nothing like the Einstein definition of madness if he tries it with different players. Particularly this year, as Benteke is a completely different type of player than he's had before at the focal point of the formation.

                            If that's the way he wants to play then it is clear to everyone, including Brendan, that this is his last chance to make it work.
                            I will bet you it doesn't work.....
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                              Originally posted by Harv View Post
                              Just hasn't got around to changing his number yet i'd assume.

                              Surely gets #9
                              probably waiting for big ricky lambo to shift.
                              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                                Originally posted by baitman View Post
                                probably waiting for big ricky lambo to shift.
                                He could be waiting a while. Not the fastest I've seen
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