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    Yeah I honestly think that against sides outside of the top 6, it is unnecessary to play Can/Lucas/ Wini. All too samey and one dimensional. We needed something different today and in so many games we've screwed up this season. The midfield isn't dynamic enough and the sheer lack of pace in our side IMO makes it so hard for us to break down and make spaces in behind compact setups.

    That game today was crying out for players like Lallana and Sturridge.Huge mistake not starting or not making changes earlier.

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      He was anonymous today.
      Are we winning?

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        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
        Yeah I honestly think that against sides outside of the top 6, it is unnecessary to play Can/Lucas/ Wini. All too samey and one dimensional. We needed something different today and in so many games we've screwed up this season. The midfield isn't dynamic enough and the sheer lack of pace in our side IMO makes it so hard for us to break down and make spaces in behind compact setups.

        That game today was crying out for players like Lallana and Sturridge.Huge mistake not starting or not making changes earlier.
        The midfield today wasn't ideal but if Lallana wasn't fit to start and Henderson is out injured then that midfield was our only option, we need another attack minded player like Lallana to give us the options if someone is out injured.
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          Originally posted by Fredo View Post
          He was anonymous today.
          I think he has been for a few weeks now

          Needs taking out of the team
          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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            Originally posted by danperkins View Post
            Yeah I honestly think that against sides outside of the top 6, it is unnecessary to play Can/Lucas/ Wini. All too samey and one dimensional. We needed something different today and in so many games we've screwed up this season. The midfield isn't dynamic enough and the sheer lack of pace in our side IMO makes it so hard for us to break down and make spaces in behind compact setups.

            That game today was crying out for players like Lallana and Sturridge.Huge mistake not starting or not making changes earlier.
            Lallana and Sturridge both looked incredibly rusty though

            For me those changes affected nothing

            The biggest actual change happened when we brought Gruijic on as he certainly gave us a little more urgency and he became a threat as I think hes decent in the air
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              Lallana and Sturridge both looked incredibly rusty though

              For me those changes affected nothing

              The biggest actual change happened when we brought Gruijic on as he certainly gave us a little more urgency and he became a threat as I think hes decent in the air
              Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                Wijnaldum looks knackered
                Was muß, das muß.

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                  Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                  Wijnaldum looks knackered
                  So does Firmino imo
                  Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                    Saw this on reddit:

                    vs Watford: 44 touches, next lowest is Mignolet with 47; Emre 70, Lucas 72
                    vs Southampton 38 touches, next lowest Mignolet with 39; Emre 91, Lucas 95

                    That is shockingly bad. The way Lucas has been playing recently, I'd be tempted to leave him in the starting 11 and replace Gini with Lallana for the final two games.

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                      Originally posted by Daffy Duck View Post
                      Saw this on reddit:

                      vs Watford: 44 touches, next lowest is Mignolet with 47; Emre 70, Lucas 72
                      vs Southampton 38 touches, next lowest Mignolet with 39; Emre 91, Lucas 95

                      That is shockingly bad. The way Lucas has been playing recently, I'd be tempted to leave him in the starting 11 and replace Gini with Lallana for the final two games.
                      That is terrible

                      Its interesting that people hammer Can at times but a lot of the criticism applied to Can can be doubly applied to Wijnaldum
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        I've been unsure of Wijnaldum all season. I don't think he gets as many games next season. Maybe some competition is needed for him.

                        Those stats above are so bad it might indicate he's carrying an injury.

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                          Think being part of the three that is our main problem against defensive teams,

                          Not one of them look like they have any attacking nous between them.

                          Too many touches , sideways passing ,

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                            He's had a real slump, not been on it for a good few weeks. Looks spent. Ideal world I'd have started Lallana and Sturridge ahead of him and Origi.
                            Like blood on iron

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                              Originally posted by gratziani View Post
                              Think being part of the three that is our main problem against defensive teams,

                              Not one of them look like they have any attacking nous between them.

                              Too many touches , sideways passing ,
                              Its the same for Coutinho, Lallana & Firmino

                              All want too many touches / time on the ball against lesser teams
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                                Its the same for Coutinho, Lallana & Firmino

                                All want too many touches / time on the ball against lesser teams

                                For sure ,let them defend easily with the slowness of moving the ball

                                Going forward think we need a mobile striker and midfield playmaker against the lower teams

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