Trent Alexander-Arnold

[SB]

Not unrelated tothe absence of cover on that side from Mo and (sometimes) the midfield

True that. Diaz does a much better job helping out his fullback but that could also be an age thing

[vlahka]

Not unrelated tothe absence of cover on that side from Mo and (sometimes) the midfield

No, they just know they have a good chance of getting around him. A right back shouldnt rely on a wide striker and midfield to constantly help him out of trouble.

[SB]

Those are good numbers for a full back, but not off the chart good when the quality of team he plays in is looked at.

Just for a bit of context and using only fullbacks (regardless of flank) and also including sub appearances as part of the PL games played total.


Kerkez has 2 goals and 6 assists from 33 games.

Robinson has 0 goals and 10 assists from 32 games.

Ait Nouri has 4 goals and 6 assists from 32 games

Nathan Collins has 2 goals and 6 assists from 33 games.

Lewis Hall has 0 goals and 7 assists from 24 games.

Daniel Munoz has 4 goals and 5 assists from 32 games.


So TAA in a far superior team has a G/A return on par with guys doing well in weaker teams.

Would many of those guys in the so called weaker teams get a better return tham their current return if playing for Liverpool with better players around them?

Maybe, but think their numbers do show, in the case of a few of them, that they potentially have a higher ceiling within a better team than what TAA has been showing for a couple of seasons now.

Thanks for the research & you never know how those other players would go unless we signed them. The pressure & expectation of playing for us is huge & crushes some players , Nunez being a prime example. I wonder what those same players defensive numbers stack up like ?

[Paul12]

No he isnt that good. Theres a reason 99% of teams always attack us mostly down our right.

Not unrelated tothe absence of cover on that side from Mo and (sometimes) the midfield

[vlahka]

No he isnt that good. Theres a reason 99% of teams always attack us mostly down our right.

[Rich]

I don’t believe his defending is worse. He’s a very good defender, just not top class.

[Charly]

Also hes a **** defender. Has the record for being passed by in 1 game. We can 100% do better at the fraction of the cost/wages.

The problem for me is he has gotten worse at defending (or feels like it) at the same time his attacking stats have dropped off too. The question is, has he stopped putting the effort in? I feel like we can do better at RB, but that does take away the other things he does add, being our only real eye for a forward pass (other than Elliott, who slot aint a fan of).

A traditional RB and a playmaker in Nunez' position would make sense. Id have loved Trent from 5 years ago though

[spud_gun]

Is there a pre-pre-assist?

[Buzzo]

It's not just the direct assists with Trent though.

It's how his elite passing is the platform for our build up.

He's a really unique profile, we won't find another right back who does that, even if they do get comparable goals and assists.

He's our playmaker, we're going to need to replace that aspect somewhere else in the team.

Yeah the pre-assist. I think that’s the bit that is unquantifiable and Trent is the best passer in our squad.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I was going to say, that was a very insightful and enlightening reply you provided.

One that made me stop and reconsider my own opinion.

But, unfortunately, since this is a Mark79 reply, the above is not applicable

Enough said.

[danperkins]

Bradley has only been available for about 50% of our games for the past 2 seasons. It's far too risky to rely on him as our starting right back in the immediate future.

We need to replace Trent with someone who can be our 1st choice right back, not a squad player.

valid points, it is a genuine concern.

[Mark79]

The former sounds most likely to me.

Ok. Either way, it’s a single stat from one game.

[Kenneth]

By a player with zero end product. Was Trent actually that bad, or was there a tactical element of not wasting too much energy stopping Doku. Let him go past and wait for him to give the ball back to us with one of his nowhere passes?

The former sounds most likely to me. I'm not saying he was really bad, but we didn't plan it.

[Mark79]

And I know there is a Mark79 retort heading my way. Just want to say that unless it is a Mark3 reply it simply does not count

I was going to say, that was a very insightful and enlightening reply you provided.

One that made me stop and reconsider my own opinion.

But, unfortunately, since this is a Mark79 reply, the above is not applicable

[Mark79]

Also hes a **** defender. Has the record for being passed by in 1 game. We can 100% do better at the fraction of the cost/wages.

By a player with zero end product. Was Trent actually that bad, or was there a tactical element of not wasting too much energy stopping Doku. Let him go past and wait for him to give the ball back to us with one of his nowhere passes?