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  • baitman
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    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
    He'll need to lose his blasé attitude if he wants to win the fans over. 100% energy and attitude to the game, like when he first came thru the ranks for us. No ambling around, gifting possession with hollywood passes. If he can show passion, he will do ok.

    I've no real gripe with him wanting to leave, he's won everything with us so why not try it with another club in another league. Don't like the fact he will go on a free, but that's not just his fault, the club shouldn't get into this position on a young, marketable player.
    This is all true.
    But from the clubs perspective, what option did we have...
    We're we going to sell him 12 months ago, and leave a gap? It would have looked dodgy if klopp was selling a local lad, vice captain, and would he have agreed to go at that stage?
    We've never had a proper rb replacement, relying on Gomez when he was fit wasn't good enough, and Bradley was only on the verge of coming through....
    We really need better quality and durability in our back up players.
    If we end up with Bradley (if fit) and another 1st team ready player as our rb options then we can rotate to preserve fitness and availability.
    The same should go for all the other positions.

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  • Scratch
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    He'll need to lose his blasé attitude if he wants to win the fans over. 100% energy and attitude to the game, like when he first came thru the ranks for us. No ambling around, gifting possession with hollywood passes. If he can show passion, he will do ok.

    I've no real gripe with him wanting to leave, he's won everything with us so why not try it with another club in another league. Don't like the fact he will go on a free, but that's not just his fault, the club shouldn't get into this position on a young, marketable player.

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  • labourRed
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    Originally posted by Paul12 View Post
    There was one job that, yes, felt like my dream had come true when I got it and, apart from the occasional quibble, was a complete joy but I still left it after 7 years to try something different. Like Trent, I gave my all every day for my employer but then, once every few years, took a career de isio that was e clyzively anx wholly about me and my family. That did not make me a person to be slaughtered on the 'net and I see no difference in Trent's case.
    While you might think there are parallels with your corporate job and a local world class full back leaving for a multimillion pound deal. It's a weak comparison at best.

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  • Le Chef
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    I think he's there for two years max, Madrid are ruthless.

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  • baitman
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    Originally posted by Harv View Post
    I think Bellingham's been in more than his ear...

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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
    This is broadly speaking where I’m at with it and I think if he’d left for big cash he’d possibly have avoided the majority of the vitriol likely to head his way. However we got £140m for Phil and he has basically zero legacy with us now..

    I can understand that this is an environment, the only environment he has know since he was 14 or whatever and that he has a desire to see what life could be like elsewhere.

    That said he should be and has said he is living the dream. I think his perspective changed when Klopp left.

    The grass isn’t always greener, and he may well find that out soon.

    Equally when push comes to shove and we get to theb nd of the season he may change his mind and stay?

    He won nothing with us so there is nothing there to offset the "bad back".


    What is even madder is that he has been with five clubs since leaving us, has gotten three league winner's medals, one CL winner's medal and a few for various cups and you cannot say that he has a legacy at any of those clubs either as he never became anything more than either a bit part player or an on loan player.


    TAA might be a bit different once time works on the sting of departure, as he was part of teams that won every big trophy for us, and very much a big part of the Klopp era.


    Whether TAA is a success on the pitch or not at Real (assuming he goes), think he will get medals there along with the massive pay day, and I have a gut feeling that is all that matters to him.


    Do think Real will be tough for him though as he will not be the local hero there, and he, imo, is neither of the two things that you seem to need be one of to win over their support, a Galactico or a hard working skill machine that facilitates the galacticos.

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  • Harv
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    He'll find out the grass isn't greener pretty quick. Madrid fans won't put up with his **** defending for long

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  • Buzzo
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    Originally posted by Harv View Post
    I don't begrudge him wanting a new challenge or experience. But running your contract down and leaving on a free when youre easily worth 80m+, absolutely shafting your "boyhood" club in the process is an absolute dick move and he fully deserves the animosity towards him.
    This is broadly speaking where I’m at with it and I think if he’d left for big cash he’d possibly have avoided the majority of the vitriol likely to head his way. However we got £140m for Phil and he has basically zero legacy with us now..

    I can understand that this is an environment, the only environment he has know since he was 14 or whatever and that he has a desire to see what life could be like elsewhere.

    That said he should be and has said he is living the dream. I think his perspective changed when Klopp left.

    The grass isn’t always greener, and he may well find that out soon.

    Equally when push comes to shove and we get to theb nd of the season he may change his mind and stay?

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  • Buzzo
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    Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
    Yeah but did you tell everyone associated with your previous companies that you were a kid who dream came through, told them how much you loved working there and kissed the company logo every chance you got???
    ****. This is where I’ve been going wrong. I do none of that.

    Might start kissing the company sign on way in each morning and build up from there!

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  • Paul12
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    Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
    Yeah but did you tell everyone associated with your previous companies that you were a kid who dream came through, told them how much you loved working there and kissed the company logo every chance you got???

    If the answer is "yes" to these, then you are a Trent
    There was one job that, yes, felt like my dream had come true when I got it and, apart from the occasional quibble, was a complete joy but I still left it after 7 years to try something different. Like Trent, I gave my all every day for my employer but then, once every few years, took a career de isio that was e clyzively anx wholly about me and my family. That did not make me a person to be slaughtered on the 'net and I see no difference in Trent's case.

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  • Harv
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    Originally posted by vlahka View Post
    Madrid are immune to being charged for tapping up players though. Only an idiot would believe they only do it during windows. They've been in his ear, Bellingham has been in his ear for them etc.
    I think Bellingham's been in more than his ear...

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  • labourRed
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    Originally posted by vlahka View Post
    Madrid are immune to being charged for tapping up players though. Only an idiot would believe they only do it during windows. They've been in his ear, Bellingham has been in his ear for them etc.
    Its always on the go. No one gets charged for it. Gerrard was tapped up several times by many different parties.

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  • Harv
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    Originally posted by Paul12 View Post
    After half a dozen quite sensible and moderate posts, I knew it wouldn't last...



    For the record, during my career I left my employer for better money or in some cases a different challenge and in one case to experience a different country, so I am in a glass house and know not to throw stones.
    Did you gradually use up every last day of sick leave despite not being sick and then suddenly leave, all the while making out you were going nowhere? if you did then youre an inconsiderate arsehole

    I don't begrudge him wanting a new challenge or experience. But running your contract down and leaving on a free when youre easily worth 80m+, absolutely shafting your "boyhood" club in the process is an absolute dick move and he fully deserves the animosity towards him.

    He can go prance around Plaza Mayor with his gucci man-bag the prick.

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  • vlahka
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    Madrid are immune to being charged for tapping up players though. Only an idiot would believe they only do it during windows. They've been in his ear, Bellingham has been in his ear for them etc.

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  • labourRed
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Because more clubs aren't Real Madrid.

    They're able to do it regularly because they've been best club team in the world for the better part of the last two decades
    Well, yes. My point was i don't know why free trades aren't more common place. We could/should be looking for one a year i reckon. Give a player a £10m signing on fee rather than paying £30m, etc.

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