England's Summer Of Cricket against New Zealand and AUSTRALIA!

[Shaggy]

It is totally over. Not a chance in hell we're losing three on the spin to that shower. Only debate for my money is will it be 5-0 or 4-0.

[RichC]

Saturday will not have helped the Aussies spirits at all, all day in the field & only managing to take 2 wickets - think that will stay them for a while.

[Hollowman]

Hotspot has little chance of showing false positives, but the absence of a hotspot is not conclusive. The cameras they use are SD, something like 640x512. Then the image is degraded further when they scrape away at it to computer generate the negative image (what we see on the screen isn't the "native" image as we can't see that part of the spectrum). At 25 fps they can miss a lot. The broadcast cameras have a far higher resolution, and the mics sample at 44k times a second. Anyo.e who thinks hotspot can't "lie" doesn't understand the tech. Remember, these are basically the same cameras that led to Apache crews gatting Iraqi goatherders who they mistook for insurgents.

But yeah. They can't lie...

[Harv]

That doesnt clear anything up whatsoever though. If the ball hits the bat it will show a hot spot. The only time it wont is if its so feint that the frame rate doesnt pick it up.

How the **** the US military mowing down goat herders has anything to do with it is anyones guess. But to me thats human error or an itchy trigger finger, not the technology getting it wrong. Its not that detailed and not meant to be. It just shows heat.

[PTP]

got day 5 tickets for old Trafford, £20

hopefully some light drizzle during the first 4 days or Australia grow half a spine

we've been thinking of getting a few as well - but i just can't see it going to day 5

am i right in thinking if it doesn't you get a 50% refund?

Plus we have already paid out for a weekend in durham at the end of august where we are playing golf on the friday and then going to Durham to watch Eng vs Aus in a T20 on the Saturday

[Shaggy]

I've thought about day 5 tickets at OT too but I just can't see it going 5 days. I've got half a chance of some more free corporate tickets for the Saturday so I'm gonna hold out for those

[RichC]

I've thought about day 5 tickets at OT too but I just can't see it going 5 days. I've got half a chance of some more free corporate tickets for the Saturday so I'm gonna hold out for those

corporate whore

[Hollowman]

That doesnt clear anything up whatsoever though. If the ball hits the bat it will show a hot spot. The only time it wont is if its so feint that the frame rate doesnt pick it up.

How the **** the US military mowing down goat herders has anything to do with it is anyones guess. But to me thats human error or an itchy trigger finger, not the technology getting it wrong. Its not that detailed and not meant to be. It just shows heat.

It doesn't show heat. It shows the effect of heat, and even then the image we see is a processed version of that. It's not the frame rate that matters in a situation like this, it's the resolution and specific circumstances such as sunlight, bat and ball speed etc. Warren Brennan, who invented the system and probably knows a little about it, reckons it's accuracy is 90-95% at best and that in testing it has failed to pick up faint edges when expected. He advocates real-time snicko be added to the system to improve it.

I'm sure you know better than him though.

[Shaggy]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJP0Jrj2gY&feature=share&list=PLEpeKf7U6g mZM__zWKKx9q2J8bH1TUCu9"]Clarke: Unnacceptable performance with bat - YouTube[/ame]

[Liverpool]

If there's no play, you either a ticket for a onr dayer against them or test tickets next summer, looking at the long range weather there's to be a fair bit of rain 3 out of the 4 days, enough to lose a couple of sessions. I think its worth the risk before it sells out

[captainfog]

Clarke: Unnacceptable performance with bat - YouTube

Thought he spoke very well there.

[Shaggy]

Pattinson out of the series with a back injury. Shame.

[Chazza]

Makes two spinners much more likely.

[Reece]

Aye, he's got no back bone like the rest of them.

[captainfog]

Pattinson out of the series with a back injury. Shame.

That's a big blow for them.