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Do you not think limiting ourselves to this one style of attack would be even more predictable? It was a massive issue last season, this season we are far less predictable and much more inventive.Originally posted by spider-neil View PostMaybe Carroll isn't the guy to do this but I still think the point stands that we are too predicatable when we desparately need a goal in the final few minutes.
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What do you mean by predictable? If 'unpredictable' means changing our style and launching it then that would make us or any team predictable if it is expected of us that our plan B is to bring on Carroll or a target man, surely.Originally posted by spider-neil View PostMaybe Carroll isn't the guy to do this but I still think the point stands that we are too predicatable when we desparately need a goal in the final few minutes.
We can be unpredictable by playing the same way. It's all about the movement and how cleverly we can find spaces, whether the opposition is sitting deep or not. It doesn't have to be a different style of football.Are we winning?
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I'm not sure it was a huge issue until after the Carling Cup final - we seemed to be scoring more or less as well as we did this season then. Although, the difference could be ascribed to having the likes of Kuyt and Maxi on the flanks offering another option.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostDo you not think limiting ourselves to this one style of attack would be even more predictable? It was a massive issue last season, this season we are far less predictable and much more inventive.
I think a lot of people are constructing a narrative for last season that isn't fully representative."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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I thought we were one dimensional for the majority of last season and complained about such during the season and was worried well before the League Cup final.Originally posted by dww View PostI'm not sure it was a huge issue until after the Carling Cup final - we seemed to be scoring more or less as well as we did this season then. Although, the difference could be ascribed to having the likes of Kuyt and Maxi on the flanks offering another option.
I think a lot of people are constructing a narrative for last season that isn't fully representative.
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Even if true it was up until then as effective as our new system in terms of results.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostI thought we were one dimensional for the majority of last season and complained about such during the season and was worried well before the League Cup final."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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We were pretty terrible leading up to the cup final too, after December we really fell apart.Originally posted by dww View PostEven if true it was up until then as effective as our new system in terms of results.
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I don't think we were one-dimensional last season, quite the opposite. We were like two completely different teams: one all high pressing, quick passing and interplay; the other leaden, predictable, dull and dire. And we'd often manage to be both in the same game, although when it happened it was almost always the former followed by the latter than the other way round.
My main concern was that it appeared to be totally random, I couldn't see why we we'd be great one game, or even half, and terrible the next. And the fact so many of the good performances seemed to involve Maxi who would immediately sit out the next five games made the randomness of selection and tactics even more bizarre. I don't know really whether Carroll made that much difference but I don't think he helped.
And following the Carling Cup the good performances became rarer and rarer.
It was this lack of pattern - a positive one anyway - that made me reluctantly support changing the manager. And the fact we now have a football strategy in practice is precisely why I think Rodgers has done a good job.
So if he doesn't want Carroll, it's fine by me.Last edited by Neil Young; 20-05-13, 12:31 PM..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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That seems a fair summary.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostI don't think we were one-dimensional last season, quite the opposite. We were like two completely different teams: one all high pressing, quick passing and interplay; the other leaden, predictable, dull and dire. And we'd often manage to be both in the same game, although when it happened it was almost always the former followed by the latter than the other way round.
My main concern was that it appeared to be totally random, I couldn't see why we we'd be great one game, or even half, and terrible the next. And the fact so many of the good performances seemed to involve Maxi who would immediately sit out the next five games made the randomness of selection and tactics even more bizarre. I don't know really whether Carroll made that much difference but I don't think he helped.
And following the Carling Cup the good performances became rarer and rarer.
It was this lack of pattern - a positive one anyway - that made me reluctantly support changing the manager. And the fact we now have a football strategy in practice is precisely why I think Rodgers has done a good job.
So if he doesn't want Carroll, it's fine by me."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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£35m worth of talent right there
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