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    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    I don't think Carroll will help there or that this tactic would help and carroll's play would like be limiting to us anyway.
    Maybe Carroll isn't the guy to do this but I still think the point stands that we are too predicatable when we desparately need a goal in the final few minutes.

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      Originally posted by spider-neil View Post
      Maybe Carroll isn't the guy to do this but I still think the point stands that we are too predicatable when we desparately need a goal in the final few minutes.
      Do you not think limiting ourselves to this one style of attack would be even more predictable? It was a massive issue last season, this season we are far less predictable and much more inventive.
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        Originally posted by spider-neil View Post
        Maybe Carroll isn't the guy to do this but I still think the point stands that we are too predicatable when we desparately need a goal in the final few minutes.
        What do you mean by predictable? If 'unpredictable' means changing our style and launching it then that would make us or any team predictable if it is expected of us that our plan B is to bring on Carroll or a target man, surely.

        We can be unpredictable by playing the same way. It's all about the movement and how cleverly we can find spaces, whether the opposition is sitting deep or not. It doesn't have to be a different style of football.
        Are we winning?

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          Nothing is predicatble when Suarez is on the pitch.

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              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              Do you not think limiting ourselves to this one style of attack would be even more predictable? It was a massive issue last season, this season we are far less predictable and much more inventive.
              I'm not sure it was a huge issue until after the Carling Cup final - we seemed to be scoring more or less as well as we did this season then. Although, the difference could be ascribed to having the likes of Kuyt and Maxi on the flanks offering another option.

              I think a lot of people are constructing a narrative for last season that isn't fully representative.
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                Originally posted by dww View Post
                I'm not sure it was a huge issue until after the Carling Cup final - we seemed to be scoring more or less as well as we did this season then. Although, the difference could be ascribed to having the likes of Kuyt and Maxi on the flanks offering another option.

                I think a lot of people are constructing a narrative for last season that isn't fully representative.
                I thought we were one dimensional for the majority of last season and complained about such during the season and was worried well before the League Cup final.
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                  Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                  I thought we were one dimensional for the majority of last season and complained about such during the season and was worried well before the League Cup final.
                  Even if true it was up until then as effective as our new system in terms of results.
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                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    Even if true it was up until then as effective as our new system in terms of results.
                    We were pretty terrible leading up to the cup final too, after December we really fell apart.
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                      I don't think we were one-dimensional last season, quite the opposite. We were like two completely different teams: one all high pressing, quick passing and interplay; the other leaden, predictable, dull and dire. And we'd often manage to be both in the same game, although when it happened it was almost always the former followed by the latter than the other way round.

                      My main concern was that it appeared to be totally random, I couldn't see why we we'd be great one game, or even half, and terrible the next. And the fact so many of the good performances seemed to involve Maxi who would immediately sit out the next five games made the randomness of selection and tactics even more bizarre. I don't know really whether Carroll made that much difference but I don't think he helped.

                      And following the Carling Cup the good performances became rarer and rarer.

                      It was this lack of pattern - a positive one anyway - that made me reluctantly support changing the manager. And the fact we now have a football strategy in practice is precisely why I think Rodgers has done a good job.

                      So if he doesn't want Carroll, it's fine by me.
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                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        So if he doesn't want Carroll,
                        And he doesn't.

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                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I don't think we were one-dimensional last season, quite the opposite. We were like two completely different teams: one all high pressing, quick passing and interplay; the other leaden, predictable, dull and dire. And we'd often manage to be both in the same game, although when it happened it was almost always the former followed by the latter than the other way round.

                          My main concern was that it appeared to be totally random, I couldn't see why we we'd be great one game, or even half, and terrible the next. And the fact so many of the good performances seemed to involve Maxi who would immediately sit out the next five games made the randomness of selection and tactics even more bizarre. I don't know really whether Carroll made that much difference but I don't think he helped.

                          And following the Carling Cup the good performances became rarer and rarer.

                          It was this lack of pattern - a positive one anyway - that made me reluctantly support changing the manager. And the fact we now have a football strategy in practice is precisely why I think Rodgers has done a good job.

                          So if he doesn't want Carroll, it's fine by me.
                          That seems a fair summary.
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                              FFS! £35m worth of talent right there

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                                C'mon, it's the end of the season.

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