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I voted for him to be given at least one more season after this. As I've mentioned previously I don't think his performances have been good enough but people are too quick to critisise him as soon as he does anything wrong.
I think we should give him another season, people forget his is still young and relatively inexperienced in the premiership, there is also second season syndrome for players new to the Premiership, (people have a better understanding of his game and how to minimise his impact) he needs to be able to adapt his game.
This is what I see happening If he is fully fit and hasn't improved significantly by the end of next season he'll definately be off then. But we may sell him this summer if we get a good offer, but I think this is unlikely.
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I voted for him to be given at least one more season after this. As I've mentioned previously I don't think his performances have been good enough but people are too quick to critisise him as soon as he does anything wrong.
I think we should give him another season, people forget his is still young and relatively inexperienced in the premiership, there is also second season syndrome for players new to the Premiership, (people have a better understanding of his game and how to minimise his impact) he needs to be able to adapt his game.
This is what I see happening If he is fully fit and hasn't improved significantly by the end of next season he'll definately be off then. But we may sell him this summer if we get a good offer, but I think this is unlikely.
But if he is not fully fit now, that is his fault and suggests that he is the problem. He had a preseason, he hasn't been injured this season, he doesn't have an excuse for his inability to do basic things.
But if he is not fully fit now, that is his fault and suggests that he is the problem. He had a preseason, he hasn't been injured this season, he doesn't have an excuse for his inability to do basic things.
I'm not suggesting he isn't fully fit now, I mean that I think he'll probably get another full season, next season. If however he were to get injured and be out for most of next he would probably get another season after that to prove himself.
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would have had him go out on loan, but if he cannot even enjoy tonights win with his team mates and rushes off down the tunnel then its obvious that he doesnt feel part of the group. would love to see him smashing them in for us, as he does have the ability, but we cannot compromise the team or our performances while we try to re-rehabilitate the sulky, lethargic, waste of spunk.
would have had him go out on loan, but if he cannot even enjoy tonights win with his team mates and rushes off down the tunnel then its obvious that he doesnt feel part of the group. would love to see him smashing them in for us, as he does have the ability, but we cannot compromise the team or our performances while we try to re-rehabilitate the sulky, lethargic, waste of spunk.
Not a good look at all ...
Some would say we lost money but on the otherhand look at Torres and we got 50 million for him, so I think it balances itself out ... I am not a fan of people with that kind of attitude ... Just who the **** does he think he is .. and what has he done exactly to think he is worthy of such nonchalant behavior
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He must be fed up, but then he hasn't done anything of note. If he had the ability it wouldn't be a problem. It's not Carroll's fault that Chelsea paid so much money for him. If he returned to Newcastle he would probably be much happier and more successful. I'd let him go during this summer for everyone's sake.
I am all for giving him a full season in a settled team with better service. I do think he was giving somewhat of a poison chalice at times and ti was very easy for us to turn on him. But my main concern with Andy Carroll is his attitude, mental toughness and professionalism. Luckily all these can be fixed, and this falls firmly on Kenny and his staffs doorstep.
Its up to Kenny to harnise this talent, the amount of players who signed for United over the years who I initially though mentally he is not going to cut it, and yet in the 2nd season or sometimes 3rd, they click into the machine and start playing like part of a wrecking machine rather than one great individual, thats what we need to do with Andy. He needs does not need to do much to win over us as fans i suspect. Not falling over under the slightest of contact for a big man would go a long way, sure ocassionaly but all the time is counter productive, we need him to play like Drogba, he goes down, but he does it when it suits him. I would be amazed if is let go so soon. Realistically I would want a deal worth in excess of 20 million if he was to go, he may be crap now, but he is talented, he does have it within him and he is still very young and English.
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