UEFA allegations - discussion

[El Jefecito]

Problem is you just can't legislate for how policing is going to be when you get to these places. I mean lets take Liverpool for instance 30/40k fans from both clubs each week and it's not very often we hear of troubles at all, sure you get the odd dick head in town all tanked up wanting to take everyone on, but asside from that we don't have trouble mainly because the police here know how to control these situations and the fans know that so it's not often they try it on. But fly so many thousand miles into europe where there isn't adequate policing and security and your just asking for trouble, sure our support should still behave but let's face it we're in the real world here and that just doesn't happen.

Problem is we seem to have more than the odd dickhead.

[murder_inc]

****in William Gaylord has had it in for us since 2005.
Remember, this is the same **** eating little worm that said we didnt deserve to be in the Champions League after winning it.
There definitly is some kind of smear campaign going on imo and there needs to be something done about it.

[spud_gun]

Everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife / girlfriend

[molonyg]

****in William Gaylord has had it in for us since 2005.
Remember, this is the same **** eating little worm that said we didnt deserve to be in the Champions League after winning it.
There definitly is some kind of smear campaign going on imo and there needs to be something done about it.

That's the point, we can rant all we want on the forums and UEFA won't give a toss, only by making our feelings known to them can we make a difference. If we threaten to boycott their sponsors, UEFA will be put under pressure to retract their remarks

[Morph]

Problem is we seem to have more than the odd dickhead.

I'm not sure we have more than anyone else tho, there aren't many teams who have the opportunity for about 20/30k of their fans to go to a foreign country and the possibility of 'fans' acting like nobs

[StevieG08]

Yes of course it is, the vast majority of Liverpool fans are fine but like in all walks of life...there's always going to be a shower of ****s and it just takes a few fans to ruin the clubs reputation. That's what i'm trying to say.

Every club has them, as every city/town has them. What would your plan be for eradicating crime from society?

[El Jefecito]

I'm not sure we have more than anyone else tho, there aren't many teams who have the opportunity for about 20/30k of their fans to go to a foreign country and the possibility of 'fans' acting like nobs

Milan fans didn't do what we did

[Dero]

What team has played the most euro ties since 2003?

there are two things to consider here:

1) Since 2003 (including the super cup) we have been involved in more away games in Europe than any other team. We also have a far bigger away support than most. Thereforeby the law of averages I would expect us to be involved in more "incidents" than anyone else. What they don't mention is the severity of these incidents but they do say that nobody has been hurt. therefore for the majority of these incidents I would guess were more high spirits.

My thoughts exactly. BTW did you look that up because I was just guessing (was going to say stab in the dark but that seemed inappropriate).

[Morph]

Milan fans didn't do what we did

Roma fans weren't to great with the mancs tho were they, it's different depending on each event. There were no where near the same amount of AC milan fand LFC fans so therefore what i like to call the nob head ratio increases. if policing was better it might not have happened, if nob heads didn't travel it might not have happened.

[Angry Dan]

Milan fans didn't do what we did

Because there were not enough of them without tickets. I can assure you that any club with a travelling fan base as large as ours would have reacted exactly the same way.

[El Jefecito]

Because there were not enough of them without tickets. I can assure you that any club with a travelling fan base as large as ours would have reacted exactly the same way.

So that makes it OK then

[rushscored4]

Everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife / girlfriend

How is it the prettiest girlfriends become the ugliest wives?

[Infadel]

"The two groups of supporters have a tradition of good behaviour and at this point we are expecting that to continue."

This is what Gaillard had to say before the match - what a prat!!

[Meols Kopite]

Have UEFA detailed these 25 incidents? I would be interested to see exactly what they are!

e.g. Liverpool v Chelsea 2005 CL semi 2nd Leg when some Barca fan ran on the pitch and led to the 6 mins injury time, is that one of the incidents? If so its hardly involving Liverpool fans just because it happened at Anfield.

[reddragon]

UEFA are doing a right hatchet job on us here. This so-called independent report seems to have been written with the express remit of getting Uefa off the hook for the total incompetence of their organisation of the CL Final [the second biggest football match IN THE WORLD].

The question now is - how do we respond to this report?