No melodrama: we've lost our club

[Robster007]

You used to be such a good poster...

I'm not one of the yank haters, but burying your head in the sand won't work either.

[DannyMan2006]

Merry Christmas one and all

It will be if we win all our games over the Xmas period, and our rivals drop some points. If we can catch up by just two points, 8 behind with a game in hand would look alot better.

I think we would have a positive outlook on the site too, especially if we signed someone in January.

After three defeats on the spin I guess I can see where all the negativity is coming from though. five wins on the spin and it's a different story.

[CAD]

Most likely? There was nothing of the sort the suggest that would happen. They may well be sold anyway this window though. But there was no suggestion of Rafa having to sell to buy Heinze. If I remember correctly, it was very late in the window too.

My point is that we will never know. Doesn't make the count less right imo.

[MindGuerrillas]

Not really because that would most likely have meant that another player would have been sold. Like Momo or Carson. It certainly looks like it now doesn't it?! I mean in 20/20 hindsight.

probably right. If anything we probably spent less this summer than we would normally (in relation to how much money we earned). This summer was always going to be different than previous summers, takeover or not. Every club in the league had more money this year than ever before due to the vast new TV deal. We also had big money from the CL run and, for the first time ever, got some good money in for our unwanted players. All of this new money would have been available if Moores were still the owner. Under Moores we usually spent around £20m net per year - we spent only just more than that this year even though we had all of that additional income.

[CAD]

is that an advertisement for the latest anfield melodrama?

Indeed. I thought it was perfect for this thread.

[red g]

I'm not one of the yank haters, but burying your head in the sand won't work either.

neither will commiting hari kari when we dont know what the **** is going on

[enema of the state]

If people start threads alluding to the fact that we've lost our club, given the fact that LFC plays a HUGE part in our lives of course Tom's going to get a response. Why would anyone expect anything different?? It's a pretty f**king sensitive subject if you ask me, given we're all fanatical about LFC.

not least with tom himself it seems

anyway, i just checked with the lfc switchboard....the clubs still there and saturdays game kicks off at 3pm

[CAD]

probably right. If anything we probably spent less this summer than we would normally (in relation to how much money we earned). This summer was always going to be different than previous summers, takeover or not. Every club in the league had more money this year than ever before due to the vast new TV deal. We also had big money from the CL run and, for the first time ever, got some good money in for our unwanted players. All of this new money would have been available if Moores were still the owner. Under Moores we usually spent around £20m net per year - we spent only just more than that this year even though we had all of that additional income.

Excagggerly - And the Count was the first to point out that G&H were infact naked!

[bazza76]

My point is that we will never know. Doesn't make the cunt less right imo.

It does in mine lol.

[desertscouser]

not least with tom himself it seems

anyway, i just checked with the lfc switchboard....the clubs still there and saturdays game kicks off at 3pm

Don't believe them. It's a trick. We'll turn up at 3 pm, go through the turnstiles and the Yanks will lock us in forcing us to watch a game of curling.

******* Americans

[DannyMan2006]

Just wondering, but surely the £15m from the CL qualification could help secure Mascher, after all, that was nearly written off.

[dww]

probably right. If anything we probably spent less this summer than we would normally (in relation to how much money we earned). This summer was always going to be different than previous summers, takeover or not. Every club in the league had more money this year than ever before due to the vast new TV deal. We also had big money from the CL run and, for the first time ever, got some good money in for our unwanted players. All of this new money would have been available if Moores were still the owner. Under Moores we usually spent around £20m net per year - we spent only just more than that this year even though we had all of that additional income.

Excagggerly - And the Count was the first to point out that G&H were infact naked!

I have to say that the truth is clearly more complex than either side want to portray. From G&H's point of view they paid back £45m of debt including the £10m to Moores for Kuyt and then we went ahead and made record buys in the summer.

The nett spend argument is hard to pin down as a/ we wouldn't see all of the nominal fees come back to us after agents etc. take their cuts and b/ there is the increased wages to take into account. In my opinion there was a step change in buying style and power this summer - when have we ever made two £10m+ buys in a summer? When have we spend £6m on a youngster who might not see much first team action immediately (Lucas)?

To me this "the Count was right and G&H have done nothing" argument is equally ludicrous as an exaggeration of what has happened as the claims that we are on a par with Man United in spending terms.

I also think that maybe we should look towards the old Arsenal model of spending rather than that of United as a realistic and sustainable one which we can move forward with. We can then spend more when a new stadium is available.

[Rich]

I have to say that the truth is clearly more complex than either side want to portray. From G&H's point of view they paid back £45m of debt including the £10m to Moores for Kuyt and then we went ahead and made record buys in the summer.

The nett spend argument is hard to pin down as a/ we wouldn't see all of the nominal fees come back to us after agents etc. take their cuts and b/ there is the increased wages to take into account. In my opinion there was a step change in buying style and power this summer - when have we ever made two £10m+ buys in a summer? When have we spend £6m on a youngster who might not see much first team action immediately (Lucas)?

To me this "the Count was right and G&H have done nothing" argument is equally ludicrous as an exaggeration of what has happened as the claims that we are on a par with Man United in spending terms.

I also think that maybe we should look towards the old Arsenal model of spending rather than that of United as a realistic and sustainable one which we can move forward with. We can then spend more when a new stadium is available.

As always sir, an excellent post, spot on.

[CAD]

It does in mine lol.

I don't understand how it can't be a legitimate scenario to sell momo or carson just before the window closed. When the Heinze feel through there were still 2 weeks left of the window if I recall correctly.

I think it's clear that the Americans are in this for the money and therefor selling a player in the last min to cover the Heinze deal, is indeed a very realistic scenario.

And the Count was spot on :bird:

[DannyMan2006]

I don't understand how it can't be a legitimate scenario to sell momo or carson just before the window closed. When the Heinze feel through there were still 2 weeks left of the window if I recall correctly.

I think it's clear that the Americans are in this for the money and therefor selling a player in the last min to cover the Heinze deal, is indeed a very realistic scenario.

And the Count was spot on :bird:

Not after all the court hearings.