No melodrama: we've lost our club

[kurtangle01]

Cant swap him, we dont own him. Sadly.

The way I see it is that if he's as desperate to stay as he and others have said he'll be prepared to wait until the summer when we can do the deal.

It'd be nice to get it sorted soon and stop all the specualtion but even if we can't do the deal right now I'm sure that there must some sort of dialogue going on in the background.

[Red Chilli]

Well the cynical way I see it is that he's desperate to stay because MSI want a deal tied up before the loan deal runs out.

[glynner]

You're not the first

If Mascherano goes to the SCUM it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Honestly?

You wouldn't be surprised if a guy who currently plays for Liverpool signed for Man U ?

Not even discounting the fact that they have 2 players they payed a combined (approx) 36 million quid for that play in almost the same position?

[glynner]

Tom, perhaps yo think that I was having a go at you for posting inside info. That wasn't the case I was basically pointing out that when you're as vague as you were in the post how could people believe anything. One thing I hate is when people get jumped on for posting info in good faith but you basically posted nothing.

If you couldn't divulge any info then it would probably have been best to say nothing.

Your original post basically told us nothing that we don't already know except the fact that you had a sleepless night last night. It was dressed up and sensationalised for effect though and then you come out with the vague info about Mascher to try and back up your claim but no one cold make a decision if we should panic or not due to the vague nature of your post.

I'm sorry that you're upset about people asking questions but what did you expect? With a post as vague and depressing as that you were always going to get questions.

You're an adult and have a lot of respect from members on this site, myself included, but your post today was befitting of a 16 year old wannabee who was in a panic because he heard that the yanks were crooks.

I think it's best to wait and see how things pan out in due course before making such harsh statements because all it does is cause panic and fear amongst some fans. It doesn't help one bit and I don't know why you felt the urge to do it.

As I said, no offence intended and hopefully you come back on the site because you seem like a nice and genuine enough guy.

Well said

[AFII]

Honestly?

You wouldn't be surprised if a guy who currently plays for Liverpool signed for Man U ?

Not even discounting the fact that they have 2 players they payed a combined (approx) 36 million quid for that play in almost the same position?

Man U can afford luxury to weaken a big rival. They would probably sell Carrick for £10m or so.

If Fergie want a £30m player for example, then he will get him, no ifs or buts, he will get him.

[glynner]

I'm yet to make my mind up about the new owners but I think they deserve a couple of years (or a major act of insanity like sacking Rafa) before I start reaching for the pitchfork and flaming torch.

there's been some good things happening since the American takeover (core players signed on long term contracts, new stadium announcements, some top players signed) and there's been some bad things (public row with Rafa, revised stadium plans) but your sentiment is absolutely true.

Unless you want to subscribe wholesale to the rumourmongering business, then I'd rather wait to see what actually pans out than start saying my last prayers and fling myself off the edge of a cliff.

[Scratch]

Man U can afford luxury to weaken a big rival. They would probably sell Carrick for £10m or so.

If Fergie want a £30m player for example, then he will get him, no ifs or buts, he will get him.

Just like he got Torres after seasons of trying...

[Rocket]

Man U can afford luxury to weaken a big rival. They would probably sell Carrick for £10m or so.

If Fergie want a £30m player for example, then he will get him, no ifs or buts, he will get him.

you're talking bollocks. what are you basing that on? united spent loads in the summer, they haven't become chelsea overnight.


****ing hell.

this thread gets worse by the hour

[glynner]

Man U can afford luxury to weaken a big rival. They would probably sell Carrick for £10m or so.

If Fergie want a £30m player for example, then he will get him, no ifs or buts, he will get him.

Sorry, I don't agree.

the notion of Man U selling a player at a six million pound loss and acquiring a seventeen million pound player as a replacement just to weaken a rival doesn't seem realistic to me.

As for the second part of your statement, I seem to recall Man U balking at Ronaldinho's fee, which was not even near 30 million British pounds at the time.

there's no doubt that Slur Alex has superior spending power, but even he can't sign any 30m pound player "no ifs or buts"

[AFII]

Just like he got Torres after seasons of trying...

That was because Torres turned them down, not because they couldn't afford him.

We are miles behind Man U in the transfer market. They can outbid us for any player so we must hope that the player rules them out and that he only want to join us if both clubs want the player.

Not a nice feeling

[AFII]

Sorry, I don't agree.

the notion of Man U selling a player at a six million pound loss and acquiring a seventeen million pound player as a replacement just to weaken a rival doesn't seem realistic to me.

As for the second part of your statement, I seem to recall Man U balking at Ronaldinho's fee, which was not even near 30 million British pounds at the time.

there's no doubt that Slur Alex has superior spending power, but even he can't sign any 30m pound player "no ifs or buts"

The Ronaldinho deal that didn't happen was because of one man who now works for Chelsea, Kenyon.

He didn't want to strengthen Man U when he himself at the same time had an agreed deal to join Chelsea.

The fee didn't had anything at all to do with it.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

****ing hell.

this thread gets worse by the hour

Reminds me of the kind of thread you'd find on TLW.

[Rocket]

Reminds me of the kind of thread you'd find on TLW.

i was thinking 6CM

[AFII]

you're talking bollocks. what are you basing that on? united spent loads in the summer, they haven't become chelsea overnight.


****ing hell.

this thread gets worse by the hour

They are not Chelsea, but not far from it.

I think you will discover year after year what I mean. They will continue to spend big if Fergie want to strengthen the team.

So what if they spend £60m-£70m net/season. They can afford it and still make a good profit.

[Rocket]

So what if they spend £60m-£70m net/season. They can afford it and still make a good profit.

even if in the last financial year, they made profits of 49.7 million, they can afford to spend 70m net, giving them a loss of 20m?