Arabs eye £500m Liverpool buy-out

[Sir Bob]

I've got to the point of almost hoping we finish 5th because then it would be the final nail in their coffin

My sentiments exactly.

i hate G&H for what they've turned LFC into. Their treatment of Rafa has been disgracefull, sitting 5000 miles away, turning up for glory games and criticising the manager in public. Rafa was wrong to criticise them in public but you can only imagine what he's had to put up with to make him do that.

[Lecter]

The problem with that is that it would probably spell the end for Rafa as well, assuming he actually stands a chance of staying.

I'm against the whole trial by media circus mentality that normally follows any sort of scandal. However I am starting to turn aainst the American, not because of any business incompetance that has been reported, but because the club is becoming the equivilant of a page three girl. We are simply becoming some tart with her tits out in the tabloids for everyone to look at and the embarrasment that this is causing is totally unacceptable.

I would hope that any regime that ends up in ultimate control would be able to conduct itself with a level of professionalism and dignity in order to avoid muddying our good name. Whether I would invite short term failure is another matter entirely.

(I also assume that your comment was sorta tongue in cheek though so don't take this as a dig at yourself)

I know it would cost Rafa his job I dont want him sacked but sometimes you have to make tough decisions and take some medicine before you get better

As I have said before I would sacrifice Rafa to get rid of our current owners

I would be sad to see him go but the flipside of the coin is Statler & Waldorf would be gone to

[Sir Bob]

I agree. I also think that the CIA killed John Lennon, there was a second gunman and that Hitler is alive and well in Argentina (and is currently enjoying his morning ride on Shergar before his afternoon card game with Lord Lucan and Ritchie Edwards)

No chance mate, I understand Hitler was more of a dominoes fan.

[Scratch]

The unwillingness to put the Rafa speculation to bed is a real concern. The Klinsmann shadow is looming large, the board have done nothing to deny it. They were quick to come out and say that Capello wasn't offered the job, Parry was quick to deny that Hicks was looking to sell his shares, but constantly nothing concrete on the security of Rafa's position.

If Klinsmann was ever offered the job (yesterday I was willing to believe it was his agent and Bayern making mischief but if he wasn't why hasn't the club denied it?) then the yanks must go, because simply it is a moronic decision and proves their lack of knowledge of the game and that they are out of their depth running a global football institution.

Is it not enought for you that Klinsman said during his pc (or so it was reported on Sky) when he was unveiled at Bayern, that he had NO contact with any British clubs?

[dom9]

G&H didn't have any business plan whatsoever and it looks like they still don't.

They take it day by day by the look of it.

How can you show up a fancy new super stadium without first having secured the funds to build it?

You show up the stadium plans when you are 100% sure that you will build it or you will look like idiots.

They are after one thing and one thing only, money and don't care a bit about the club.

You are talking poppycock yet again.

Of course they had a business plan.

It was based on the leveraged buy out prinicple. Borrow money to finance the deal. Add value to the company, then sell at a profit (or cream off lots of profit in the meantime). It's what the Glazers have done. But it has gone spectacularly wrong due to the credit crunch.

[swishtz]

Ramblings of infant minds some of this !

[swishtz]

Rashid - By chance do you have longish hair and a goatee ? (Saw someone on the tube other day that just had to be you, ie in a suit with Liverpool badge,bag, and some other bits !

[swishtz]

DIC will be waiting for the loan deadline to pass, i would speculate that if the loan/finance is successful the probably will not bother, if pinky and perky run into trouble then all bets are off, and expect Moores and Parry to be kicked into touch.
This deal with the Americans and the pace and level of due diligence on both sides, is an absolute mess and the blame sits squarely with Moores and Parry for accepting what appears to be this Trojan Horse. But there is still no firm information as to what the status is, we just bought a player for £6m so from the other side of the fence, whats the problem ? And the fact is our manager is making our team play total ****e..I would think twice about giving him more ££ at this stage that was not necessary.

[Tom]

Without meaning to have a pop Tom , you have been posting stuff on here the last 2 months, and making it sound like you 're the only person outside Anfield that knows what's going on, but without being able to say why.

To be fair, I posted what what I was told. My opinion is based on the balance of evidence, in that regard and the subsequent snowballing of news stories that have backed that information up

[Tom]

If they bid for Arsenal last year, I wonder if he would have been a of fan theirs too.

They never bid for arsenal last year. They issued a statement saying there was only one premiership club they were interested in buying and that was liverpool.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Gillett never had enough money in the first place - hence Hicks. Even their combined wealth, on paper at least, doesn't look to be enough.

We really ****ed up the takeover IMO...after all that ****ing time spent hawking ourselves around.

I also have minor doubts about DIC but there's no doubting their financial clout.

I'm dubious about this report but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

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Id love DIC to come in anyone but the Americans why couldnt Randy Lerner buy Liverpool he's a great owner

[dom9]

They never bid for arsenal last year. They issued a statement saying there was only one premiership club they were interested in buying and that was liverpool.

You mis-read my post.

I meant, if they had bid for Arsenal, or any other club, would this guy have said that he was a fan of theirs instead? I didn't mean top imply that DIC had actually bid for Arsenal.

I'm always scepitcal when people proclaim to be lifelong fans when they want something. Be it overseas players that have come from nowhere, or prospective owners.

[Tom]

why couldnt Randy Lerner buy Liverpool he's a great owner

He's also a great bloke, met him through a mate of mine who runs a club in london.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Nothing on the english language website but that doesn't mean anything. The Observer story is enough for me to think there may be something in it.

Just like with the sack Rafa stories, and with the Rafa has no funds from the yanks type ****e.

Sorry mate we've been down this road before. Wait and see is the best approach.

Honestly, read the article, it's laughable. Are we to seriously believe that DIC will give the yanks £75 million type bonus each, for basically gazumping them a year ago?

And to be blunt I don't understand all the clamouring for the arabs, people say they'll run the club better, based on what evidence, have they run a football club before? And what have the yanks done wrong so far, that's not based on silly net and paper rumours?

I think most want DIC to come in and spend money like a drunken sailor in a brothel. If so, admit it.

[Tom]

You mis-read my post.

I meant, if they had bid for Arsenal, or any other club, would this guy have said that he was a fan of theirs instead? I didn't mean top imply that DIC had actually bid for Arsenal.

I'm always scepitcal when people proclaim to be lifelong fans when they want something. Be it overseas players that have come from nowhere, or prospective owners.

Al Ansawri was definately a liverpool fan. He was in Istanbul.