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    Originally posted by Rocket View Post
    my impression of them is that they're here/would be here to make money.

    so there are two main ways of doing that

    a) increasing profitability

    b) increasing our re-sale value.

    would be interesting to see how they'd go about it.
    It centred on a new stadium, marketing of the brand and TV deals. There is certainly potential there, you only have to look at Arsenal's increase in profitability.
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    Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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      Originally posted by Bob View Post
      It centred on a new stadium, marketing of the brand and TV deals. There is certainly potential there, you only have to look at Arsenal's increase in profitability.
      yeh, but if they just did a bit of that, then sold us to another bunch of monkeys in 5 years, would we be better off in the long term?

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        Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
        Totally agree, the reason they chose the yanks was because they knew they'd make more money from the deal & parry could keep his job knowing full well the yanks had no clue how to run a "soccer" club.
        tbh i don't think that's the reason, i just think moores thought the yanks would be better characters than they've proven themselves to be, i've always thought moores was a nice guy but just not a clue about business at all, just like the majority of his family
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          Originally posted by ronniedrew View Post
          it will take an awful lot of money anyway, for a stadium and world class players (which is what it takes), so owners with more money than sense would do fine

          Yup, they are going to come and pay well over the odds for us (far more than they were willing to pay before) to bail out G&H and make us champions once more.

          I've seriously given up with all of this. I'm not aiming this at you but huge swathes of posters here are living in cloud ****ing cuckoo land with DIC riding over the horizon on their white horses to deliver us from the evil yanks with no thought for themselves.
          Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad

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            Originally posted by Tom View Post
            Is right, we don't know either way. If, and it's a big IF granted, this report is right, they would put money straight into the team and the stadium. Which is exactly what we need. I have to say i doubt they'd keep rafa on though.
            Tom - why would they not keep Rafa on and see what he can do with real investment?

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              Originally posted by Rocket View Post
              yeh, but if they just did a bit of that, then sold us to another bunch of monkeys in 5 years, would we be better off in the long term?
              how do we know for sure they werent rumours started by G&H?
              In Rafa I Trust

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                Originally posted by Tom View Post
                We'll see. You don't know, neither do I.


                Without meaning to have a pop Tom , you have been posting stuff on here the last 2 months, and making it sound like you 're the only person outside Anfield that knows what's going on, but without being able to say why.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by Rocket View Post
                  yeh, but if they just did a bit of that, then sold us to another bunch of monkeys in 5 years, would we be better off in the long term?
                  Well we'd have some profit to play with. The caveat of the DIC takeover was one of 'em was a fan, obviously. Whether or not he was indeed a fan, i reckon that needs to be the case, owning a football club isn't about making huge returns - it's a labour of love/a plaything for the uber rich. Sadly the current owners are neither.
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                  Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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                    Originally posted by Bob View Post
                    Well we'd have some profit to play with. The caveat of the DIC takeover was one of 'em was a fan, obviously. Whether or not he was indeed a fan, i reckon that needs to be the case, owning a football club isn't about making huge returns - it's a labour of love/a plaything for the uber rich. Sadly the current owners are neither.


                    If they bid for Arsenal last year, I wonder if he would have been a of fan theirs too.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Originally posted by Morph View Post
                      tbh i don't think that's the reason, i just think moores thought the yanks would be better characters than they've proven themselves to be, i've always thought moores was a nice guy but just not a clue about business at all, just like the majority of his family
                      agree and his decision looks as if it has cost us dearly
                      In Rafa I Trust

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                        I fail to see why people are greeting DIC with any great enthusiasm, after all didn't they plan to sell up after 7 years as they felt financially this was the optimum time to do so.

                        I'm no fan of G&H, never have been but DIC are G&H in another guise. Anyone coming into LFC will do so now to make cash. They want to minimise expenditure and maximise income. Just because the Arabs have shed loads of cash doesn't mean they'll give plenty to Rafa or whoever they appoint as manager. In my view we will have a very tight transfer budget until the new stadium is complete. Do you think the Glaziers would be giving such big transfer funds to Ferguson if they were also funding a new stadium...not a chance.

                        G&H to DIC...out of the frying pan and into the fire.
                        AKA Heighway No9

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                          Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post

                          G&H to DIC...out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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                            As I recall DIC got the hump first time round when they thought they had a verbal agreement in place. When Moores listened to the Yanks new offer (which I seem to recall he was obliged to do anyway), they threw their toys out of the pram and went home.

                            Why would DIC be any better than G & H? It's true they certainly have more available cash, but this does not mean it would end up in our coffers. They would still be working to a business plan that had funding limits and no-one on here knows what those limits are. Be careful what you wish for, you could find they have even tighter spending plans than the current owners. Everyone is just assuming that because they are so rich they would splash the cash as if it was water. Who would have anticipated that we would be doubting the financial stability of the club so soon after the takeover (which everyone was screaming for)?

                            I'm not a fan of the Americans - I think their silence over the manager is sickening and is one of the factors having an affect on the performances, but I don't think they have so far done too much wrong on the business side. Circumstances have dramitacally changed since they bought the club and this is the reason for the uncertainty. From all of the reports I have read, they are still intending to build a new stadium (within a set budget which is entirely sensible), they have decided to re-finance in a way that does not load the entire debt onto the clubs books (after some opposition from the old board members perhaps but at least they listened), and they are still allowing player purchases.

                            We have to be realistic and recognise that spending £100 million on players every season until we are chock full of world class players is not an option. Once the stadium is built then we can begin to compete with Man U and Chelsea but without that additional revenue stream it simply is not going to happen.
                            Last edited by StevieJ; 13-01-08, 01:26 PM.

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                              Originally posted by StevieJ View Post
                              As I recall DIC got the hump first time round when they thought they had a verbal agreement in place. When Moores listened to the Yanks new offer (which I seem to recall he was obliged to do anyway), they threw their toys out of the pram and went home.

                              Why would DIC be any better than G & H? It's true they certainly have more available cash, but this does not mean it would end up in our coffers. They would still be working to a business plan that had funding limits and no-one on here knows what those limits are. Be careful what you wish for, you could find they have even tighter spending plans than the current owners. Everyone is just assuming that because they are so rich they would splash the cash as if it was water. Who would have anticipated that we would be doubting the financial stability of the club so soon after the takeover (which everyone was screaming for)?

                              I'm not a fan of the Americans - I think their silence over the manager is sickening and is one of the factors having an affect on the performances, but I don't think they have so far done too much wrong on the business side. Circumstances have dramitacally changed since they bought the club and this is the reason for the uncertainty. From all of the reports I have read, they are still intending to build a new stadium (within a set budget which entirely sensible), they have decided to re-finance in a way that does not load the entire debt onto the clubs books (after some opposition from the old board members perhaps but at least they listened), and they are still allowing player purchases.

                              We have to be realistic and recognise that spending £100 million on players every season until we are chock full of world class players is not an option. Once the stadium is built then we can begin to compete with Man U and Chelsea but without that additional revenue stream it simply is not going to happen.
                              If you keep talking sense like that mate you are going to fall out with a lot of seasoned posters on here
                              And welcome.
                              Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad

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                                Originally posted by tomasjj View Post
                                any new owners wont necessarily need deep pockets, just enough to get the new stadium built, a normal transfer budget, and more importantly respecting the liverpool way

                                I think you will find DIC have and I'm certain they would invest heavily, arabs don't like being second best

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