Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[disco]

DIC have the ability, the knowledge, the expertease and crucially THE RESOURCES to make us profitable.
To be profitable the team needs to be successful.
That's where they differ from H&G, they have the resources to make us successful, H&G don't. Sorry, that's the way I see it.

Disagree about knowledge and expertise.... At least G&H have ran a sportsclub before - have DIC?

As I've said, it boils down to whether they will dip into their pockets or not. Which I think they will, but I'm not 100% sure they will be much different...

[ntto]

One of the arguments leveraged against G&H is the fact they were going to saddle the club with a significant amount of debt - DIC could be planning this approach as well and I think we need to be careful incase there is a backlash against DIC if people don't understand the difference. Of course there is the additional argument against G&H that they said they wouldnt saddle the purchase debt on the club in the first place.

The Dubai brand is a very interesting take on this as well.

As well as buying the club, can anybody see the new stadium name being something to do with Dubai? What about the shirt sponsors? I appreciate that the stadium naming rights and shirt sponsorship is a major source of income but promotion of the Dubai brand might me more important to DIC and the Sheik.

If that's the case then the club may find it harder to be self sufficient

[Red Chilli]

Disagree about knowledge and expertise.... At least G&H have ran a sportsclub before - have DIC?

As I've said, it boils down to whether they will dip into their pockets or not. Which I think they will, but I'm not 100% sure they will be much different...

G&H have run sportsclubs into the ground

DIC/Sheik Mo have made their horse racing stables the best in the business.

[AFII]

Disagree about knowledge and expertise.... At least G&H have ran a sportsclub before - have DIC?

As I've said, it boils down to whether they will dip into their pockets or not. Which I think they will, but I'm not 100% sure they will be much different...

It really don't matter if DIC have ran a football club before. They will get in the right people to take care of the day to day business.

[dawmdt]

I'm not saying H&G aren't running the club properly, there's no evidence for that.
I'm saying they don't have the resources to make the team successful and therefore they won't make a profit on their investment.
They've overstretched themselves, you'd have to go a long way to claim DIC have done the same.

I pretty much agree with this, to "guarantee" us winning things (and start beefing up our returns) they'll need to throw a stack load of cash into the club for players, marketing and so on.

The club itself simply isn't worth enough to leverage the debt of purchase, the debt of a new stadium and the debt of team improvement on it. Assuming anyone was daft enough to lend that much against the club there's no way our current income would keep up with the payments. We'll never be in danger all the time the club is worth more than it's level of debt... we might not progress much either mind you :P the danger will come in when the level of debt exceeds the clubs value (say, by comparing to expected revenue) and we use that debt to improve the team, win things and improve the clubs value. That's the Leeds Utd scenario, if it doesn't work out nobody will buy the club with that level of debt (even if it's just to takeover and payoff the debt) as the odds of making their money back is very small.

[disco]

G&H have run sportsclubs into the ground

DIC/Sheik Mo have made their horse racing stables the best in the business.

Have they?! Bit of an exaggeration there mate, 18 months ago we were saying how amazing their stadiums were.

I'm not sure you can compare horse racing to football, but I take your point - IF football is a high priority/obsession for DIC (or more likely the Sheik) then we might be quids in......

[Red Chilli]

Have they?! Bit of an exaggeration there mate, 18 months ago we were saying how amazing their stadiums were.

I've corresponded with fans of their teams

[paulcooper4]

It really don't matter if DIC have ran a football club before, actually, yes it might matter, lets wait and see. They will hopefully get in the right people to take care of the day to day business IF they take over.

[Rich]

I can't see DIC doing things halfhearted if they managed to purchase the club, ergo it would be a high priority for them.

[Rafa Shankly]

OK, let's clear a few points up here. I am not pro-G&H, far from it. I'm not even pro-DIC as I don't know enough about them other than they are ruthless businessmen and would do anything to get what they want.

Also, I am definitely not anti-Rafa Benitez.

All I am saying is that there are better ways of making your point rather than protesting like this in public. Only a week or two ago Hicks was condemned by many for "doing his dirty washing in public" and how it wasn't "the Liverpool Way". Well WTF are RTK doing?!

Finally, I am not blaming Rafa entirely for our poor recent results but what better way to paper over the cracks than to deflect the criticism through your mates in the media onto other people? I bet Mourinho wishes he'd done that now. And Jol. And especially Allardyce...

Believe me, no-one on this site is more passionate about our great club than me but sometimes you have to think for yourself and not just follow blindly like the rest of the sheep...

or you could forget all this crap of "not the liverpool way" and stop ****ing worrying what fans of other teams are saying about us.

and get out and make a stand,let the 2 clowns know their not wanted.

im sorry mate,i thinks its extremely arrogant and patronizing of you to suggest that fans went about things the wrong way,and are just blindly following the pack,just because you dont agree with the protesting.

[paulcooper4]

I've corresponded with fans of their teams

So have I

[saveferris]

DIC may have a mid term plan for the club and that may result in them selling it on for a profit. My thoughts are though, if their business practices result in the LFC brand being much much stronger, at the end of their tenure then as a club and as a business this is not necessarily a bad thing. Using Man U as an example, sure the Glazers saddled the club with debt, however they are managing it efficiently so that there is no detriment to the club.

DIC may be better at managing the club as a business than Hicks and Gillett seem to be doing, and for me this is currently what I am looking for, short term stability.

[disco]

Disco and Kopdan are playing devil's advocate - it's their style.

Not quite.

Just predicting that it won't be much different, given 1-3 years.

Charlie Wilson's war I tell thee!

[cled the red]

DIC may have a mid term plan for the club and that may result in them selling it on for a profit. My thoughts are though, if their business practices result in the LFC brand being much much stronger, at the end of their tenure then as a club and as a business this is not necessarily a bad thing. Using Man U as an example, sure the Glazers saddled the club with debt, however they are managing it efficiently so that there is no detriment to the club.

DIC may be better at managing the club as a business than Hicks and Gillett seem to be doing, and for me this is currently what I am looking for, short term stability.

[ntto]

G&H have run sportsclubs into the ground

DIC/Sheik Mo have made their horse racing stables the best in the business.

Is the stables owned by DIC or by the Skeik?

Is it important we make that distinction?