Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[dww]

Come on dww, come on mate, we've had some highs and lows over the last 24 hours but the yankee emperors aren't wearing garments of silk, they're as ****ing naked as the day they were born.

****ing cunting scheisters.

Hicks pays for debt with club assets and his history proves this. Don't be afraid - be very ****ing afraid. We all need to unite against these cunts as one voice, demand answers or begin a process of boycotts, start with merchandise, sponsors, and go from there till we squeeze these cunts so badly, nobody would ever **** with us again.

I'd rather we end up in the championship to get back to new ownership and zero debt, than we end up mid-table paying for these cunts to banquet on our proud name and history.

I think the fundamental difference in our points of view come from the last bit of what you say. I don't think that necessarily debt is a huge issue and I believe whoever our owners were the cost of buying us would come out of the club at some point.

I have to say I'm uneasy about the idea of boycotting merchandise etc. as it seems close to cutting our nose off to spit our face. If there was a clear philanthropic alternative to G&H then I could see the point but as it is I'm not so sure.

Any way heres to something happening to brighten all our moods

[disco]

Disco, I know where your position on the finances, but where do you stand on the whole Klinsmann thing and how they have treated/dealt with Rafa?

Ignoring my personal feelings on Klinsman...

Not a problem with the approach - why are players and managers allowed to look for jobs, but owners can't even make contingency plans?! Is it any different from Rafa looking round for a new striker to replace Kuyt, Crouch etc.?

HOWEVER, the announcement was probably well intended to call tabloid's bluff, but yet again a total PR **** up. Should have kept quiet.

I can't help but feeling that there's more going on that we don't know about. I love Rafa, but he ain't whiter than white. Those press stories about Milan/Real etc. don't come out of thin air.

Anyway, the fans made their feelings for Rafa known and the owners have (at least for the time being ) made up with him.

[Dhav]

Ignoring my personal feelings on Klinsman...

Not a problem with the approach - why are players and managers allowed to look for jobs, but owners can't even make contingency plans?! Is it any different from Rafa looking round for a new striker to replace Kuyt, Crouch etc.?

HOWEVER, the announcement was probably well intended to call tabloid's bluff, but yet again a total PR **** up. Should have kept quiet.

I can't help but feeling that there's more going on that we don't know about. I love Rafa, but he ain't whiter than white. Those press stories about Milan/Real etc. don't come out of thin air.

Anyway, the fans made their feelings for Rafa known and the owners have (at least for the time being ) made up with him.

Yes, I do agree with you that there is more to it than meets the eye, and more than what is in the public domain.

Am not at all convinced that the owners have made up with him however

[AFII]

I wonder how much the way Pako left in meant for the morale in the dressing room?

Probably a lot. I think it all started to get wrong at that point.

[jrd7]

I think the fundamental difference in our points of view come from the last bit of what you say. I don't think that necessarily debt is a huge issue and I believe whoever our owners were the cost of buying us would come out of the club at some point.

I have to say I'm uneasy about the idea of boycotting merchandise etc. as it seems close to cutting our nose off to spit our face. If there was a clear philanthropic alternative to G&H then I could see the point but as it is I'm not so sure.

Any way heres to something happening to brighten all our moods

A hypothetical for you then:

If in the summer, we've got what we make back on transfers as "we supported rafa with Masch, that was 17million" so around 10-15 (or 32 based on their hype) to spend, how would you view that? Is that why we were sold in the first place? Keep signing mediocre **** untill 2012 and playing catch up with the people who are now on our shoulders?

**** that

[dww]

I wonder how much the way Pako left in meant for the morale in the dressing room?

Probably a lot. I think it all started to get wrong at that point.

I'm not sure although I think that as he was the friendly face of the manager to the players it has almost certainly made any problems harder to rectify.

[Fowler_God]

There have been rumblings over on RAWK for the last few weeks which seem to hint that the playing side of things is bad (like Revo has posted)

There was a post by someone who said they had heard something regarding Rafa that was shocking and would change their view on him if true.
Then there was the thread by Barney which was RAFA OUT- no joke. Which i thought was something to do with rumours circulating about Rafa.

I'm just hoping its bull**** being spewed out by Hicks team to ease the heat on him

[kopdan]

right, what the **** is the deal with these questions.

Who is getting the "questions"?
What are the "questions"?
Whats the point?

Have we done a list of questions on est and getting them answered or something?

AFII - Hi Rafa, when will Nemeth get a game?
AFII - Me again, where did you get your business degree from Rick?

[blacky]

Revo.......................does this mean you will reveal all on Sunday?

[disco]

right, what the **** is the deal with these questions.

Who is getting the "questions"?
What are the "questions"?
Whats the point?

Have we done a list of questions on est and getting them answered or something?

AFII - Hi Rafa, when will Nemeth get a game?
AFII - Me again, where did you get your business degree from Rick?

- G and/or H, for a wild guess
- Don't know, I'd suggest asking Revo, but he's asked not to be PM'd
- Try to put to bed all the speculation and ****wittery once and for all (or we debate whether we believe him/them)

[CAD]

I didn't say I believed he would, fact is they'll probably refinance to include the interest if the club can't afford it

However, the article clearly says that the owners will cover it, but media and the majority of this site ignored that bit

I find all this amazing. People ffs. Listen, they own LFC and for them to drain it makes.no.sense. Hello? Is there anybody our there? If the club can't cover the interest they will have to do so themselves. Selling club assets? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME WITH THIS ****E! Talk about counter-productive. And no, you can't just run away and hide if you have put up assets for a 245mill£ loan. What is this? Please raise you hand if you think that you can just pull the assets at any given time. They are investing 600 mill£ looking for a 1 billion exit. They will make sure that we can compete for at least 4th spot. Why? Because it makes good business sense. They might be assholes but they are not stupid. If need be they will bring in money. Why? Because 1 billion - 650 mill still makes sense. If all this fails they will try to sell the club to the highest bidder. The club will be in debt from now on. Get used to it. DIC will do exactly the same thing. You want us to compete here and now. Not possible. Courtesy D. Moores. Next!

The ****e written by certain posters in this thread simply beggars belief.

[Dhav]

I find all this amazing. People ffs. Listen, they own LFC and for them to drain it makes.no.sense. Hello? Is there anybody our there? If the club can't cover the interest they will have to do so themselves. Selling club assets? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME WITH THIS ****E! Talk about counter-productive. And no, you can't just run away and hide if you have put up assets for a 245mill£ loan. What is this? Please raise you hand if you think that you can just pull the assets at any given time. They are investing 600 mill£ looking for a 1 billion exit. They will make sure that we can compete for at least 4th spot. Why? Because it makes good business sense. They might be assholes but they are not stupid. If need be they will bring in money. Why? Because 1 billion - 650 mill still makes sense. If all this fails they will try to sell the club to the highest bidder. The club will be in debt from now on. Get used to it. DIC will do exactly the same thing. You want us to compete here and now. Not possible. Courtesy D. Moores. Next!

The ****e written by certain posters in this thread simply beggars belief.

Well I think your ****e beggars belief actually. What money does Gillett actually have to cover a shortfall of say £17m? The man has no liquidity. So do you think good old Uncle Tom will put in the full amount? Not a chance in hell.

If they think selling a top player will cover the repayments the club cannot make, and that the team can absorb the loss of that player and still finish in the top 4, they will do it without blinking. Has Hicks ever put in any money of his own in any of his leverage buy out ventures? I'd be interested to know, but I doubt he'll do it in this case.

The club is a great club with a loyal fanbase, but it will never in a month of Sundays be worth £1bn. Talk of £1bn is insane. And as for them making a £600m investment? Can I remind you they have not invested one penny. Not one penny has left their pocket and gone in the club

Get a grip and show a bit of respect for other posters. You may well be much more financially and commercially aware than I am, but it obviously doesnt stop you posting some aggressive and exaggerated ****e.

[Leyton388]

HICKS **** OFF OUT OUR CLUB ON THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON YOU HOT DOG EATING HILL BILLY.

I cannot believe what has happened to our club over the past 3 months (Longer behind closed doors) we are now 17 points behind in the league with the blue ****e above us. How the season has gone is not short of a disaster and it's all down to that hill Billy ****er. We started off ****ing brilliant and if that ****er would have kept his mouth shut and let rafa do his job I truly believe we would be top of the league and on our way to Wembley for the carling cup final. GUTTED!!

Last year when I heard DIC had pulled out and the yanks got the club I had a feeling it would come back and bite us in the arse big time and at the time I remember thinking it was typical of Parry and moores to **** it up as that ****er can't even tie down steve g when he wanted a new contract.

5 years he searched for investors and these two are the best he comes up with. He has really out done himself this time IMO. Maybe parry should become the new American Defence secretary as he has all the credentials to do that job (retard).

[Johnny]

Any post that is not vehemetly Anti-Hicks is not welcome in this thread,leave the doomongers to post in this thread and it will die a fast death.I suggest the posters that don`t think we ****ed leave this abomonation of a thread.





I`d imagine if there is a split in the dressing room it`s because some of the team/backroom don`t share the doom and gloom feeling most of the fans have.




This thread is only splitting this forum because nobody knows Jack ****.90 posters speculating that we are in trouble against 6 posters who speculate that it should work out OK.

[Alpha]

Any post that is not vehemetly Anti-Hicks is not welcome in this thread,leave the doomongers to post in this thread and it will die a fast death.I suggest the posters that don`t think we ****ed leave this abomonation of a thread.





I`d imagine if there is a split in the dressing room it`s because some of the team/backroom don`t share the doom and gloom feeling most of the fans have.




This thread is only splitting this forum because nobody knows Jack ****.90 posters speculating that we are in trouble against 6 posters who speculate that it should work out OK.

I think the problem lies in varying definitions of what it means to "work out OK".