fans in buy out sensation!!

[Shanks]

These guys obviously feel they can do it. Let's give them some support and see what they come up with, at least give them a chance before getting all negative.

Nope.

[alunevans]

To raise 500million amongst 100,000 fans we need a contribution of £5,000 each.

Not really viable that sadly. I doubt 100,000 fans have 5k to chuck at the club. I certainly don't.

[redlancer]

I know where you're coming from fella in that the fans can change their minds quickly. But my point is that we need to get behind these guys and try'n get the yanks out.

You would rather these guys, who are genuine fans running the club rather than the Americans. Just because Barca and Real run Presidentcies (or however you spell it) every year doesn't mean we will.

it's the romantic idea IMO

maybe this day and age of football the club needs to be run at the top without emotion so to speak. As a buisness.

I'd personally love the club to be owned by the like of Moores with a pocket full of cash and a good board - for me the people like Peter Robinson

but even fans who are shareholders want the profit. They might not start like that but they will end up like that.

Would these guys want a say in team selection - a string of bad results would the demand certain players start?

[Iceman]

Lets hear what they have to say first before we go jumping the gun

The 3 people named are certainly no mugs and have obviously not done this as a publicity stunt (like L4)

I think you will find that there will be 100,000 shares @ 5K each but you could buy a 1/50th of a share for £100 ( or multiples) and in the voting you would have 1/50th of a vote (or multiples)


whilst 5K may be beyond many of us a few hundred certainly isnt, I think the idea is to give a voice to as many fans as possible............... ok it may only be a tiny voice but a voice none the less


was also told something the other week by someone who works in the financial sector and he mentioned something about not needing banks if you are a charity or trust or summat................. cant remember the details but it sorts of fits in


FFS ................ I was getting Insider info and never realised lol

[Agger the Dagger]

it's the romantic idea IMO

maybe this day and age of football the club needs to be run at the top without emotion so to speak. As a buisness.

I'd personally love the club to be owned by the like of Moores with a pocket full of cash and a good board - for me the people like Peter Robinson

but even fans who are shareholders want the profit. They might not start like that but they will end up like that.

Would these guys want a say in team selection - a string of bad results would the demand certain players start?
In any Democracy, the Union is made up of equals. It's just that some are more equal than others...

I think it would be a perfect solution:

1. Debt covered
   
2. Answerable to ourselves (more Professional and Responsible)
   
3. Manager-Players-Fans in an infinite link - like a Daisy Chain

I don't have £5,000 for a share sadly - if there would be a way to get some kind of micro shares for the less well off - unlike some of the Accountants and Lawyers on here

[Agger the Dagger]

Another thing - remember when Gillett said there would be a 'Fan's Forum'? What happened there then?

[Iceman]

I think it would be a perfect solution:

1. Debt covered
   
2. Answerable to ourselves (more Professional and Responsible)
   
3. Manager-Players-Fans in an infinite link - like a Daisy Chain

I don't have £5,000 for a share sadly - if there would be a way to get some kind of micro shares for the less well off - unlike some of the Accountants and Lawyers on here

see my post above

they would obviously limit the amount any big investors could put in, so the micro votes (collectively) always had their say


because of the guys involved it could possibly work

[Agger the Dagger]

see my post above

they would obviously limit the amount any big investors could put in, so the micro votes (collectively) always had their say


because of the guys involved it could possibly work

Well let's just hear what they have to say later - I just don't want to hear another hustle

[Iceman]

well if the rumours are correct about the 3 guys involved are not in it for a fast buck they are from socially aware backgrounds

wish I had listened to this guy more at the weekend ( the guy who told me about charities/trusts being able to borrow dirt cheap)

but he's an accountant type and i went into "yes" mode

blah blah blah

" oh really? thats intersting"................. sups beer............ watches footie on telly


blah blah blah


"well I never".............. whose round is it............ whats the time........ we need to think about heading up to the ground


blah blah blah

" sorry was miles away there"


and knowing who is supposed to be involved............. this guy was giving me a scoop............... ahh the evils of the demon drink lol

[redwien]

I'm in if I can be the one to sack parry!

[Tomovich]

Why can't it be shared between supporters who contribute an amount decided by him/herself and big parties like DIC and Kraft who buy for a much larger amount? We need to look at it like stock markets. These shareholders then can appoint the board which can but must not contain only shareholders (for example Sameer Al Ansari and Kraft) but also exterior persons (Dein) who have proved that they are up to the task. This way we won't need to "run the club" and no split between supporters will happen.

[dawmdt]

Why can't it be shared between supporters who contribute an amount decided by him/herself and big parties like DIC and Kraft who buy for a much larger amount? We need to look at it like stock markets. These shareholders then can appoint the board which can but must not contain only shareholders (for example Sameer Al Ansari and Kraft) but also exterior persons (Dein) who have proved that they are up to the task. This way we won't need to "run the club" and no split between supporters will happen.

I'd imagine this is exactly how it could happen... a large proportion will be purchased by wealthy fans and a significant but smaller proportion by "normal" fans buying micro-shares...

[kopdan]

its a great idea but what makes them think H&G will sell?

They wouldnt sell to DIC it would seem

All I see it as is further pressure on the board to sell up with some big names behind it.

[kopdan]

but dont worry, Rashid will be along soon with the scoop from Dave Usher, the man who knew all along.

And then Tom

and then Milkman

[Pablo]

Does anyone know the full details of how this system works for Barcelona?

As I understand it you pay a lump sum for a share then you get a vote in any decisions made. You vote for the club Chairman every few years etc.

What happens if more funds are needed for a new signing? Who decides this? do they contact EVERY shareholder and request another fiver?

Seems very complicated to me, but also VERY exciting too. We would not be ran as a big business, ran to squeeze every last penny out of the club, we would be ran by the fans!