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    #46
    If Capello and now (allegedly) Rafa think he is a top class player, then that's good enough for me.

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      #47
      Never said he wasn't a good player. Like Pacman said I don't think he's better than Xabi and Mascher in midfield. He's a good addition for left back and would probably do a good job left midfield too.

      Hopefully Babel will play more central next season, so then we could go for a right winger and right back and I think we'd be there. Still would like another striker too.

      Personally I'm not keen on Valencia. Last winger we bought off Bruce was Pennant...and he's pants

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        #48
        Originally posted by Reece View Post
        If Capello and now (allegedly) Rafa think he is a top class player, then that's good enough for me.
        And more so if Hicks thinks that too.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
          Never said he wasn't a good player. Like Pacman said I don't think he's better than Xabi and Mascher in midfield. He's a good addition for left back and would probably do a good job left midfield too.
          If Xabi does go in the summer, would it make sense rather than getting in a foreign player who may take time to settle into the Premiership, to get a proven Premiership player like Barry?

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            #50
            Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
            Last winger we bought off Bruce was Pennant...and he's pants
            Pennant's not pants.

            Do you siege in the house of commons ?

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              #51
              The thing with Barry is he is a good player, i've said many times before he'd be a good signing however do we really need him? If Xabi goes i rather Lucas play more regular or Plesis or even drop Gerrard more deeper then sign an Aguero type player instead who provides guile and creativity which the one main area we lack, we need a consistent attacking player not a solid midfielder.
              We come not to play.

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                #52
                balague is rafa's informal media man.

                he wouldnt say anything without rafa's approval and they are said to be very very close.

                It was balague that first leaked the story of benitez joining liverpool in an interview with benitez on revista de la liga and i remember watching that thinking blimey he's actually coming.

                He knows what rafa's plans are so any info from him is genuine. All his information comes directly from rafa and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

                What pissed me off about the podcast was the way he was orgasming over Barry, FFS if we had £15m to spend I would spend it on a proper winger or creative player and not gareth barry to partner masher in the midfield. There are others who can do that like plessis or lucas.

                We've signed degen from dortmund who is ok - better than arbeloa, we need creativity first and foremost, the central midfield can wait.

                BTW i do believe that alonso will go to either barca or madrid and i think the deal is already done. xabi's great form recently is his way of saying goodbye.
                [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                  #53
                  If Ballague is so close to Rafa, why would he inform everyone about our transfer plans for the summer? And if he is doing that, why would Rafa leak his transfer plans to the press? He was pissed off when Hicks leaked it to one man, remember.

                  Ballague's a journo who happens to be in contact with Rafa sometimes, and I think Rafa's using him to get the attention off what's really been going on. Sure, sometimes he gets something right, but he's not getting things right on a better ratio than what some hack in an internet forum doing guesswork might.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by el matador View Post
                    balague is rafa's informal media man.

                    he wouldnt say anything without rafa's approval and they are said to be very very close.

                    It was balague that first leaked the story of benitez joining liverpool in an interview with benitez on revista de la liga and i remember watching that thinking blimey he's actually coming.

                    He knows what rafa's plans are so any info from him is genuine. All his information comes directly from rafa and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

                    What pissed me off about the podcast was the way he was orgasming over Barry, FFS if we had £15m to spend I would spend it on a proper winger or creative player and not gareth barry to partner masher in the midfield. There are others who can do that like plessis or lucas.

                    We've signed degen from dortmund who is ok - better than arbeloa, we need creativity first and foremost, the central midfield can wait.

                    BTW i do believe that alonso will go to either barca or madrid and i think the deal is already done. xabi's great form recently is his way of saying goodbye.

                    Spot on

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by fredo View Post
                      Pennant's not pants.

                      Do you siege in the house of commons ?
                      Ok Pennant is ****.

                      Fredo...do you just disagree for the sake of it? And I don't know what you're on about with the house of commons comment...but as long as you do then that's fine

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                        Ok Pennant is ****.

                        Fredo...do you just disagree for the sake of it? And I don't know what you're on about with the house of commons comment...but as long as you do then that's fine


                        I just think Pennant is an excellent player, not world class but hardly ****e as you say. That's an exaggeration of all sorts (to tag him as being ****e) !

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                          If Ballague is so close to Rafa, why would he inform everyone about our transfer plans for the summer? And if he is doing that, why would Rafa leak his transfer plans to the press? He was pissed off when Hicks leaked it to one man, remember.

                          Ballague's a journo who happens to be in contact with Rafa sometimes, and I think Rafa's using him to get the attention off what's really been going on. Sure, sometimes he gets something right, but he's not getting things right on a better ratio than what some hack in an internet forum doing guesswork might.
                          Rafa does it so he can make speculation for Liverpool (create a bit of buzz and make them look busy) and trying to see what sort of reaction he would get from the fans and obviously Guillem would be able to tell him that the fans don't want so and so a player. When Rafa was getting Torres, Balague mentioned it towards the end of the La Liga season last season and the sort of reaction was that he needed to prove himself to play at a big club and the Liverpool fans would rather have Eto'o. Rafa took it on board and thought why not? Rafa was confident in his managerial skills and coaching ability to guide Torres as the top marksman in Europe.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by fredo View Post


                            I just think Pennant is an excellent player, not world class but hardly ****e as you say. That's an exaggeration of all sorts (to tag him as being ****e) !
                            Shows why you aren't a manager either. Pennant would be excellent at a team like Birmingham, Wigan or Derby County. At Liverpool he's just average mate. That's why Rafa plays a striker on the wing instead of him

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by fredo View Post


                              I just think Pennant is an excellent player, not world class but hardly ****e as you say. That's an exaggeration of all sorts (to tag him as being ****e) !


                              Why isn't he in the England squad?

                              Thats there with Bellamy is better than Rooney.

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                                #60
                                I suppose you also have to factor in who would be going the other way in the deal.

                                If Barry is on the cards, I'd say it was for left back, or left midfield. Not a bad replacement to what we have.

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