Don't buy official merchandise or any tickets!

[merlboo]

It does need to be one big campaign with everyone involved rather than lots of splintered groups. However it can be a campaign with different groups involved.

Is there already a boycott Liverpool campaign? if there is do we need to make contact and give our support.

Chuck ideas this way people.

a boycott

this was discussed and debated quite strongly at yesterdays EGM

firstly a/the match/es.... it was put to the floor by the committee and what the merits and negatives and how it could be enforced and what would define a successful boycott .. 3000, 5000, 10,000 ?

it was argued i must say articulately from both sides however and this was the biggy ... could we rely on enough numbers to enforce such action

we've coordinated demos in the main stand car park for 2 years now with an average of only 250-400 people when the owners have been the game with a general feeling of apathy of the masses for whatever reasons

one of the other big problems at the moment and this is in no way a sleight on our out of town fans of which an average of around 15,000 travel up on any given match, is they'll only be coming up i'd guess for primarily one thing ...thats to get into the ground

it could turn nasty if pickets where formed

so what we proposed was a boycotting of the auto cup scheme first

now this can have a few bearings on the clubs finances

1. the club cannot summise that the money generated from the auto cup scheme is a given

2. prices will not necessarily be set quite ludicrously high like last seasons europa league season with the impact this could have on the guaranteed income which would come from the ticking off boxes in the cup competitions
and the club not being able to rely on that money already in the bank and the fear that extortianate tkt prices will reflect lower attendances

i think this is a great idea to start with




the other thing about an actual physical boycott to bear in mind is the 'Dalglish factor' .... now if i can rewind back 12 months or so when every tom dick and harry was shouting us down saying get behind the team then a similar scenario may be played out with the majority saying 'get behind Kenny'

we'll have to see who comes in and maybe when the 4th july rally comes around , there maybe another chance to discuss and revisit the boycott of a europa cup match early season, possibly 1 stand being targeted (the kemlyn for tv purposes)

we've again stipulated that there should be a boycott of the club shops and again we'd like the fans to use their own disgression on that (young uns and all )



an email to confirm such a stance will be circulated i believe this afternoon

i'll put it up when it comes through

hope that helps

[CJ]

A couple of points. I dont see the need to picket if people chose to go to see Liverpool we shouldnt stop them.

its about a concerted campaign that is clearly communicated.

I find it strange that you love your marches at SOS but baulk at trying the one thing that would really make a difference.

I am not saying it will work but it needs to be tried. If we try to organise it and then it looks like it not getting anywhere we say ok we tried that and it didnt work.

its difficult yes but it shouldnt stop us trying.

[Scratch]

I asked on another thread, but got no answer...if i buy a shirt through JJB etc, how much revenue does the club receive from that purchase. My understanding is that it will be none...Adidas have paid LFC for the priviledge of making our shirts already. JJB then pay Adidas for a batch. We pay JJB...the club gains nothing?

[CJ]

I asked on another thread, but got no answer...if i buy a shirt through JJB etc, how much revenue does the club receive from that purchase. My understanding is that it will be none...Adidas have paid LFC for the priviledge of making our shirts already. JJB then pay Adidas for a batch. We pay JJB...the club gains nothing?

i would imagine that they do get some money.

isnt it safer not to buy official merchandise?

[Scratch]

i would imagine that they do get some money.

isnt it safer not to buy official merchandise?

Not really sure how...they won't receive a cut from every shirt sold, unless it's sold through the club store directly.

I'd rather buy a good quality top, than a cheap rip-off basically, and if i can do that without the club profiting, then i'd take that option.

[Roboklopp]

Regardless, if there are low shirt sales, this will stop sponsors wishing to be associated with LFC, which can only be of detriment to those wishing to milk the club for all it is worth.

[CJ]

Not really sure how...they won't receive a cut from every shirt sold, unless it's sold through the club store directly.

I'd rather buy a good quality top, than a cheap rip-off basically, and if i can do that without the club profiting, then i'd take that option.

i might be missing the point but to not buy a shirt (or two) for a season (or two) isnt that hard is it?

obviously everyone has choices and makes decisions etc but if there are not many new shirts being sold full stop it must make a statement, rather than looking to buy a lfc shirt but then thinking how do i do it so the club dont benifit. Maybe the shirt deal assumes certain levels of sales and if they dont get that then its a lesser payment? i dont know but the easiest thing is to not buy a shirt?

[CJ]

Regardless, if there are low shirt sales, this will stop sponsors wishing to be associated with LFC, which can only be of detriment to those wishing to milk the club for all it is worth.

as long as done properly i am not sure about the shirt with the logo like looks like our sponsers but isnt.

again its a personal thing .

[Roboklopp]

i might be missing the point but to not buy a shirt (or two) for a season (or two) isnt that hard is it?

obviously everyone has choices and makes decisions etc but if there are not many new shirts being sold full stop it must make a statement, rather than looking to buy a lfc shirt but then thinking how do i do it so the club dont benifit. Maybe the shirt deal assumes certain levels of sales and if they dont get that then its a lesser payment? i dont know but the easiest thing is to not buy a shirt?

Aye.

This is exactly tho sort of apathy the Yanks are betting on. It's not like the new home shirt isnt completely hideous anyway!

[Scratch]

I thought the aim of the boycott was to stop lining the yanks pockets with our money? I would suggest that giving up a season ticket will make an impact more than anything else, but i expect to see all of them sold, some probably to the same people who are telling us not to buy official merchandise, the money of which will never see the yanks pocket anyway.

Or will every member of SOS, every person on here who refuses to buy a shirt, be giving up their season ticket?

[CJ]

I thought the aim of the boycott was to stop lining the yanks pockets with our money? I would suggest that giving up a season ticket will make an impact more than anything else, but i expect to see all of them sold, some probably to the same people who are telling us not to buy official merchandise, the money of which will never see the yanks pocket anyway.

Or will every member of SOS, every person on here who refuses to buy a shirt, be giving up their season ticket?

Scratch the idea of not to buy season tickets etc (from my point of view not sure about anyone elses) is that it has to be done properly as if it isnt then someone else will just buy it. this is why i keep saying we have one shot at it. Also it may be too late for season tickets.

now i dont go to the games so all i can do is stop buying shirts etc which i have done.

Its an interesting question about the SOS memebers still financially supporting the club. I agree but also see my point above.

If i asked you what have you done and you say i bought my official shirt from JJB would you think you have done all you can?

again its your choice to do what you want but you seem to be looking for a complicated way when there is a very easy option available.

[Scratch]

If i asked you what have you done and you say i bought my official shirt from JJB would you think you have done all you can?

again its your choice to do what you want but you seem to be looking for a complicated way when there is a very easy option available.

If me buying a shirt from JJB stops money getting to the yanks, then i am achieving what is being asked.

Not looking for a complicated way at all...i am a Liverpool fan who can very rarely get a ticket to a game, so i want to show my support for the club through this hard time. If i can do this without the American's seeing my cash, then great.

I wear the shirt with pride, except now that shirt is torn, so i seek a replacement away shirt.

[St.Anger]

Maybe its different in spain, but isnt real madrids buisness plan each summer to buy popular players and make a tonn of money on shirt sales later? I would assume that the clubs make some money on shirt sales otherwise that would be a **** plan....

[CJ]

If me buying a shirt from JJB stops money getting to the yanks, then i am achieving what is being asked.

Not looking for a complicated way at all...i am a Liverpool fan who can very rarely get a ticket to a game, so i want to show my support for the club through this hard time. If i can do this without the American's seeing my cash, then great.

I wear the shirt with pride, except now that shirt is torn, so i seek a replacement away shirt.

ok i am not sure it does achieve what you asked. It may though i have a feeling that the less shirts sold everywhere the better. It sends a bigger message

and the want to show your support for the club and if you can do this without the americans getting your cash is the wrong way round for me. I start with the americans not getting my money.

however its a personal choice and we will decide in different ways

[Scratch]

Maybe its different in spain, but isnt real madrids buisness plan each summer to buy popular players and make a tonn of money on shirt sales later? I would assume that the clubs make some money on shirt sales otherwise that would be a **** plan....

Think that's through the clubs official marketing plan...and something to do with the club buying image rights along with a player (a big sticking point with both Ronaldo and Beckham if i remember correctly?)