Transfers - Who is deciding who comes, who stays and who leaves?

[bertie]

I'm still failing to see why people came to this opinion of Purslow.

I've asked time and again and never had anything conclusive. All I get is Maybe and Possibly. Ridiculous tbh.

Well here goes...... wait for it......... he's DEFINITELY a cunt.

btw What more evidence do you need?! Lec, Merlboo etc have put far more time into this than me but you asked the same qs in the Chief Exec thread. I posted a rather lengthly reply. Can't be arsed posting it in here but if you ask for reasoned opinions & get them, don't ignore them because you don't happen to agree with them.

[Scratch]

Well here goes...... wait for it......... he's DEFINITELY a cunt.

btw What more evidence do you need?! Lec, Merlboo etc have put far more time into this than me but you asked the same qs in the Chief Exec thread. I posted a rather lengthly reply. Can't be arsed posting it in here but if you ask for reasoned opinions & get them, don't ignore them because you don't happen to agree with them.

But the problem with these reasons is that the ones that are based on 'fact' can be explained away by circumstances changing....Purslow was originally brought in to get investment...he tried, but with the restrictions upon him placed him in a no-win situation, but what's to say that he wasn't given a new role halfway through that period...Neil Young quotes Purslow as saying Rafa is our man...and? Our man Rafa got his agent to whore him out to Inter, so I guess the situation changed (maybe cos of Rafa, maybe cos of Purslow, we don't know), after all Rafa was reported keen to be working with Purslow after Parry left, Rafa guaranteed us fourth but left us with seventh, so sometimes words mean little...and the rest of the arguments seem to be based on the fact that internet gossip and rumour become facts if said enough. In my opinion it's not enough to want to call the man childish names and assume the worst.

And as for the transfer situation, when i first read the quotes i saw it as Roy did the prelim talks, and then CP did the negotiations.

And on the Remy transfer, what's to stop Roy from watching DVDs of the player...did Rafa personally go and watch transfer targets play, or did he let his scouts build a dossier of the target, and then read that and review any visual information provided?

[Neil Young]

Like my ole gramammy used to say, you don' need to get bit to know a dog's dangerous.

[Guest]

It's clear that the boss is Purslow now. He decides on which players to buy (based on Macia's recommendations) and relies on Hodgson to coach them. Not sure how much he'll have a say in tactical matters, it's not clear yet. What is clear, is that Hodgson is just a 'coach'. He's being interviewed by the press but his answers are cryptic at best, preferring to pass the buck of responsibilities to Purslow (as regards to transfers etc). This club is in dire straits.

[Guest]

Like my ole gramammy used to say, you don' need to get bitten to know a dog's dangerous.

[Neil Young]

Dang it. I have amended my original post better to capture the rhythm of her voice. Please edit your quote accordingly.

[Scratch]

It's clear that the boss is Purslow now. He decides on which players to buy (based on Macia's recommendations) and relies on Hodgson to coach them. Not sure how much he'll have a say in tactical matters, it's not clear yet. What is clear, is that Hodgson is just a 'coach'. He's being interviewed by the press but his answers are cryptic at best, preferring to pass the buck of responsibilities to Purslow (as regards to transfers etc). This club is in dire straits.

Clear? As in "all parties have come out and said so" clear, or clear as in "we've bundled together some random quotes, that can be looked at from more than one direction, and used them to fit into our argument" clear?

Cos if it's the latter, then it ain't really clear at all.

Besides, you're still hung up on Rafa and refuse to accept Roy, so you'd believe anything that made Roy out to be a puppet.

[Guest]

Clear? As in "all parties have come out and said so" clear, or clear as in "we've bundled together some random quotes, that can be looked at from more than one direction, and used them to fit into our argument" clear?

Cos if it's the latter, then it ain't really clear at all.

Besides, you're still hung up on Rafa and refuse to accept Roy, so you'd believe anything that made Roy out to be a puppet.

I think it's clear enough and it isn't based on 'random quotes' at all. Some people have highlighted it and it's getting increasingly clear that Roy (or the puppet) doesn't have much say in transfers.

Maybe if we sign Scharner, this would give a hint that he has some kind of say in it.

I don't think I'm wrong mate but I hope to. I would be delighted if Hodgson (and the board - Purslow) manages to pull something this season. I'll be the first to hold my hands up.

[Scratch]

I think it's clear enough and it isn't based on 'random quotes' at all. Some people have highlighted it and it's getting increasingly clear that Roy (or the puppet) doesn't have much say in transfers.

Maybe if we sign Scharner, this would give a hint that he has some kind of say in it.

I don't think I'm wrong mate but I hope to. I would be delighted if Hodgson (and the board - Purslow) manages to pull something this season. I'll be the first to hold my hands up.

Do we really think Roy would sign up as a "yes man" and then continuously release little snippets sniping at the man who fired him. Or is it possible that he's talking plain and simple...i identify, Purslow negotiates...and that people then read too much into it?

Reminds me of doing Shakespeare at college...there's us dissecting every line, looking for the social context etc, when poor old Will was just writing a story, and there was no double meaning at all behind his words.

[Guest]

Do we really think Roy would sign up as a "yes man" and then continuously release little snippets sniping at the man who fired him. Or is it possible that he's talking plain and simple...i identify, Purslow negotiates...and that people then read too much into it?

Reminds me of doing Shakespeare at college...there's us dissecting every line, looking for the social context etc, when poor old Will was just writing a story, and there was no double meaning at all behind his words.

We'll see, hope you're right though.

[Neil Young]

Do we really think Roy would sign up as a "yes man" and then continuously release little snippets sniping at the man who fired him. Or is it possible that he's talking plain and simple...i identify, Purslow negotiates...and that people then read too much into it?

Reminds me of doing Shakespeare at college...there's us dissecting every line, looking for the social context etc, when poor old Will was just writing a story, and there was no double meaning at all behind his words.

I used to think that when I was at school.

[Kenneth]

Do we really think Roy would sign up as a "yes man" and then continuously release little snippets sniping at the man who fired him. Or is it possible that he's talking plain and simple...i identify, Purslow negotiates...and that people then read too much into it?

Reminds me of doing Shakespeare at college...there's us dissecting every line, looking for the social context etc, when poor old Will was just writing a story, and there was no double meaning at all behind his words.

I'm more inclined to agree with you Scratch, and I am certainly not going to waste time worrying about dynamics between Roy and CP at this stage.

Lots of people want Roy to fail, if he fails it excuses Rafa's decline. Others want CP to be an incompetent megalomaniac because they've already invested so much in hating him. Why people have no patience to see how things actually pan out is beyond me.

[Neil Young]

I don't think anyone here wants Hodgson to fail. You're confusing anxiety with desire.

This probably explains why women around you are granted all those restraining orders.

[Kenneth]

I don't think anyone here wants Hodgson to fail. You're confusing anxiety with desire.

This probably explains why women around you are granted all those restraining orders.

I really do think that there are people who are enjoying the opportunities to bitch and moan more than they would enjoy Roy to make a go of it.

[Exiled_red]

While I understand that having a new manager coming in takes time to adapt to the place and assess the squad, and I appreciate that it's even more difficult to do this with the World Cup meaning players aren't back at training yet. I can't help but worry that our squad which wasn't overly big on experienced players is losing people with little signs of anyone else coming in (at present). With the season a month a away, If we don't start seeing players come in soon I will be worried, we're less than a month away from the start of the PL season and our European season only 10 days away, especially as we can't really afford a slow start.