Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Mr Darko]

Geez - I can't believe what I'm seeing. Footage of Evra and the N word being said has been found, it's crystal clear what's being said too...

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMOWi3PRDJM[/ame]

Ban him - there's no place for that in 2011.

[Alex]

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Pssss right I am off

Irifutable evidence that its him

[dom9]

PES is for homosexuals with a hard on for inferior aesthetics and 90s gameplay
We are all Aliens just that most of us have not made first contact with ourselves yet
Carmina Burana is what I hear in my head every time I post on an internet forum, walk into a room, climb a mountain, save a kitten up a tree, save a small country, watch Steven Gerrard score a goal.
Marky was a misunderstood genius sent from the future to kill Sarah Conner, unfortunately he misheard Sarah Lee and died of over consumption of delicious frozen foods.

Pssss right I am off

[red g]

Just out of interest, if Suarez called him a French/Senagalese C*nt rather than specifically referring to Evra's colour does that count as racism?

Not sure, but his English teacher would b impressed!!!

[Exiled_red]

Not sure, but his English teacher would b impressed!!!

[Tee]

PES is for homosexuals with a hard on for inferior aesthetics and 90s gameplay
We are all Aliens just that most of us have not made first contact with ourselves yet
Carmina Burana is what I hear in my head every time I post on an internet forum, walk into a room, climb a mountain, save a kitten up a tree, save a small country, watch Steven Gerrard score a goal.
Marky was a misunderstood genius sent from the future to kill Sarah Conner, unfortunately he misheard Sarah Lee and died of over consumption of delicious frozen foods.

Pssss right I am off

Hahahahaha. Niceys back!!

You mad FIFA loving *******!!!

[Fredo]

PES is for homosexuals with a hard on for inferior aesthetics and 90s gameplay
We are all Aliens just that most of us have not made first contact with ourselves yet
Carmina Burana is what I hear in my head every time I post on an internet forum, walk into a room, climb a mountain, save a kitten up a tree, save a small country, watch Steven Gerrard score a goal.
Marky was a misunderstood genius sent from the future to kill Sarah Conner, unfortunately he misheard Sarah Lee and died of over consumption of delicious frozen foods.

Pssss right I am off

[Vermilion]

I'll ask nicely - can we not get personal about other posters.

Touchey subject this racism accusation and we all have our own opinions on it, debate it of course but let's not start having pops at each other

That is all.

Lucky for you that you can, as he's roaming these boards once more it seems....

[IJM]

Until the FA have completed their investigation I'm not forming an opinion one way or the other. I just hope they don't drag it out.

However, a number of thoughts spring to mind.

1. The publically available footage from the game does not seem to show any evidence of the alleged offence.

2. Sky would surely search all available footage from all their cameras and microphones (everything gets recorded) in order to run it as a story. UNLESS...

3. ... the referee notified the FA immediately and the FA instructed Sky to turn over their footage and further instructed Sky that they have to keep a lid on it until the investigation is concluded. (I can't imagine the FA being as "on the ball" as this would have needed them to be.)

4. Man Utd (spit) may have said they are behind Evra, but I notice that it is still Evra alone that is pursuing this as an individual and not the club.

5. If the FA rules in Suarez's favour would Suarez then be within his rights to sue Evra for slander through the courts? Or do Premier League/FA/FIFA rules prohibit this?

6. If it is not true, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Evra could be doing this to unsettle Liverpool and our talismanic striker. He may even have been instructed to do this by Utd as part of their mind games. Having him pursue this as an individual may be an attempt to lend creedence to the allegation while protecting their club from a possible exposure should this backfire.

Of course, much of this is speculation. But these are the thoughts running through my head.

[Arn]

Until the FA have completed their investigation I'm not forming an opinion one way or the other. I just hope they don't drag it out.

However, a number of thoughts spring to mind.

1. The publically available footage from the game does not seem to show any evidence of the alleged offence.

2. Sky would surely search all available footage from all their cameras and microphones (everything gets recorded) in order to run it as a story. UNLESS...

3. ... the referee notified the FA immediately and the FA instructed Sky to turn over their footage and further instructed Sky that they have to keep a lid on it until the investigation is concluded. (I can't imagine the FA being as "on the ball" as this would have needed them to be.)

4. Man Utd (spit) may have said they are behind Evra, but I notice that it is still Evra alone that is pursuing this as an individual and not the club.

5. If the FA rules in Suarez's favour would Suarez then be within his rights to sue Evra for slander through the courts? Or do Premier League/FA/FIFA rules prohibit this?

6. If it is not true, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Evra could be doing this to unsettle Liverpool and our talismanic striker. He may even have been instructed to do this by Utd as part of their mind games. Having him pursue this as an individual may be an attempt to lend creedence to the allegation while protecting their club from a possible exposure should this backfire.

Of course, much of this is speculation. But these are the thoughts running through my head.

I mentioned the same thing. Roy Keane said that he got instructed by Fergie to take players out of games, that means injure them etc.

I can't say that it is impossible or totally unrealistic that Fergie instructed Evra to blame Suarez for racism. He is the type of manager that would do that if it could help his team.

[Chrono]

Not sure it would make much sense to do that to a non title rival after we have played them. I don't believe for one minute that Ferguson did that.

[Liverpel]

Can anyone remember the outcome of the Harkness/Collymore incident from some years ago?

[BG1973]

That's just a tedious cliche.



What, by asking pointless questions? We aren't in Evra's mind so how can anyone answer?

And I dont see someone saying "Otherwise i would tend to believe Evra. No reason to make such a sensitive thing up unless it's true." as questioning things, sounds like he's decided Suarez is guilty on the deluded belief that all human beings are honest and would never lie. A nice thought but extremely way off reality.

Get over it.

On the basis of what i have heard i don't see what reason Evra has to make it up - unless for the reason i stated (to stitch suarez up because he was pissed at him) I hope that is the case but my rational non biased view is that it is more likely that suarez would say what he said than evra would make up such a thing.

What do you honestly think is more realistic?

[Lee]

Can anyone remember the outcome of the Harkness/Collymore incident from some years ago?

Bloody hell, you've got some memory! I'd completely forgotten about that.

So no, I can't remember the outcome.

[BringbackBiscan]

Both Collymore & Harkness have stood their ground down the years. With SC saying he was racially abused & SH denying everything. Nothing has been proved/disproved and neither man has changed their version of events.