Evra accuses Suarez of racism

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Also it would be interesting to know who the source is for that Marca article

[BigChief]

And the witness. Apparently the unsubstantiated rumour in the manure sites is someone from LFC spat at one of their players in the tunnel.

[Phoenix07]

Also it would be interesting to know who the source is for that Marca article

Probably the bloke in your avatar. Was around Suarez prior to handshake, end of first half and at the end of the game.

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Probably the bloke in your avatar. Was around Suarez prior to handshake, end of first half and at the end of the game.

He was the first person that I thought of, but then I thought perhaps it was too obvious

[Phoenix07]

He was the first person that I thought of, but then I thought perhaps it was too obvious

When you think about it further, he's close to Xabi Alonso at Real Madrid. Gets on with Casillas and Ramos too. All have direct lines with Marca.

[McDermotX]

I have a solicitor friend informs me that, petty as it seems, Luis has a practically watertight case for assault against Evra for grabbing his arm at the handshake.

Petty action against a petty man

It would be funny if he did press charges but I very much doubt that it would help the situation.

[Jack D Rips]

And the witness. Apparently the unsubstantiated rumour in the manure sites is someone from LFC spat at one of their players in the tunnel.

The S** online suggested the De Gea was spat at.

[BootRoom]

http://www.marca.com/2012/02/14/futb...329222305.html

According to a witness, Evra tried to assault Suárez at half-time

- "It was good he was stopped by several people, otherwise he would have eaten him", a source said.

- 'Lucho' was going to shake his hand, but he noticed the Frenchman withdrew his arm when he saw him

Polemic between Luis Suárez and Patrice Evra - the Uruguayan didn't shake hands with him during the initial ceremony at the United-Liverpool match - has a new ramification. Sources in the inner circle of the player were surprised by Lucho not shaking hands, since he had committed with his relatives to do it with the Frenchman "in order to avoid more criticism".

Then, what happened in the end? Why didn't the handshaking take place? Suarez was very upset with the Frenchman. He believes that he coldly broke a player's code - what happens in the pitch, stays there - by accusing the charrua of being racist, and without any actual proof supporting it. But, Suárez was going to shake hands with him anyway.

Evra was offering his hand to the red players. When Suárez was coming before him, he put his hand down and barely offered it, to which Luis, in a mistake he himself recognized afterwards, denied him his own hand. "I swear for my daughter - the most sacred person to Luis - that I was going to shake my hand with him", Suárez confessed to his intimates.

What happened in the tunnel?

Ever since the first incident between the two players in October, British press is demonizing Suárez, accusing him of racism all over. There is a detail that MARCA reveals today that might change the general aspect of the story.

According to a witness questioned by this periodical, as the first half ended, and in the tunnel, Evra ran towards Suárez and tried to assault him from the back. "It was a good thing that Skertl, Agger and Kuyt stopped him; otherwise he would have eaten Suárez", the aforementioned source told MARCA.com. A detail the press has failed to report in England, a place where Evra is treated as if he were a saint, despite of the fact that at the end of the match, and having already won it, tried to provoke the Uruguayan jumping into his face. Suárez did not react to the provocation. But, as MARCA.com reveals today, Evra is no saint.

<Dons tinfoil hat>

Worryingly, this could be construed as Marca diving in to boost the reputation of Suarez before Real Madrid spirit him away.

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And the witness. Apparently the unsubstantiated rumour in the manure sites is someone from LFC spat at one of their players in the tunnel.

I've not heard that one.

[Shaggy]

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/man-utd-fc/2012/02/15/andy-mitten-extremists-among-manchester-united-and-liverpool-fans-have-obscured-racism-issue-55578-30332694/

Andy Mitten: Extremists among Manchester United and Liverpool fans have obscured racism issue

by Andy MittenFeb 15 2012Add a comment

OLD Trafford’s best atmosphere of the season began to subside as the remaining home fans left the stadium. Near the travelling supporters, a steward gave a teen United fan one last warning.

“Leave the ground now,” he shouted, pointing to the exit after Saturday’s game. He’d seen enough goading. On the forecourt outside, a policeman marched another teenager away. He was drunk and was told to “stop making a nuisance of your yourself or you’re getting nicked.”

The lad slowly stumbled down Sir Matt Busby Way cursing the police and Liverpool FC. Luis Suarez’s latest mistake had given him something to hang his hatred on, a chance to claim the moral high ground.

There will always be extremists who thrive on hate. I’ve seen United fans delight in self-righteousness after viewing an online video of some Liverpool fans singing Munich songs. They were not upset, but pleased because in their warped minds, it proved that all Liverpool fans were scum. That, in turn, justified songs about Hillsborough. It’s playground politics with a pathetic twist.

I’ve heard Liverpool fans spread false rumours about United fans urinating on the Hillsborough memorial, proof in their tiny minds that all United fans are scum. These empty vessels make a lot of noise – and they have more opportunities to with the proliferation of social media.

Twitter and Facebook has given them a place to vent their spleen, often anonymously. They pass on baseless rumours and invent stories. How very brave, how commendable, of them.

In 1999, I read Powder by the Scouse writer Kevin Sampson. It was sublime, the best book of the year. We requested an interview for the fanzine United We Stand. Sampson wasn’t expecting that and it was a first for us. A one-hour interview in a Lime Street bar turned into 16 hours in Liverpool, where I was prodded by his mates and questioned like I was an alien.

We had our biggest ever mailbag a month later. Not everyone liked it, but the overwhelming gist was: “We don’t like them and they don’t like us, but we have much in common and there’s a grudging respect.”

I’ve met many decent Liverpool fans since. Normal people who support their football team, have pride in their city, like music, clothes and can’t pronounce “chicken” correctly.

When it came to football, we didn’t find agreement because we weren’t looking for it. Liverpool hated Gary Neville, while Luis Suarez now gives United followers reasons to criticise.

They followed their team, we followed ours. They got shafted by ridiculous ticket prices, games being switched to suit foreign audiences and American owners who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing. So did we.

Sometimes they won, sometimes we won, them and us. I got a text off one, Peter Hooton, of The Farm and The End fame, after that match in Istanbul in 2005. It read: “I know how you felt in Barcelona.” He was right.

In a Manchester pub packed with United’s hardcore after Saturday’s game, some lads had seen Hooton on Soccer AM earlier and opined that he was miles sharper than every other guest. Which, judging by the usual cast, is a smarty head from an indie band who discovered football when he was 22. The United fans had more in common with Hooton. He got it.

I didn’t see the programme because I was at the BBC’s new home in Salford to do an interview for Five Live with another Liverpool fan, Andrew Heaton. He spoke more sense about the Suarez/Evra situation than anyone I’d heard.

He wasn’t point-scoring and he certainly wasn’t sticking up for Suarez or Kenny Dalglish, a man he held in the highest regard, but not a man free from errors of judgement. And that was before the game.

And that should be what comes of this sorry affair – no longer giving the time of day to the posturing, bile and paranoia of the far too vocal, extremist minorities on both sides who have had a field day, and who have obscured the central issue of what constitutes racism on the field of play and how it should be dealt with.

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That's a good article.

[Kenneth]

If only.

[Mostar]

@jaycluskey99
'Luis Suarez has damaged Liverpool's reputation with Patrice Evra handshake snub' - Ajax boss de Boer

[ChesterDave]

Will be intersting to see his response if Ajax fans give it to Evra on Thursday

[Mostar]

De Boer is a prick for saying that.

Focus on his own players instead of ours.