Dejan Lovren

[Mr Pink]

Lovren started playing Prem matches in October and November - he started at home versus Leicester, Spurs and City and away at Villa and Palace. We won them all. I haven't checked non EPL matches.

Lovren played 9 PL games this season- in those 9 games we have 1 clean sheet and conceded 11 goals.

Gomez played 18 PL games this season- in those 18 games we have 10 clean sheets and have conceded 10 goals.

[Mr Pink]

So since Klopp has stated

"If anyone blames Dejan Lovren for our defeat, I can't help these people..."

can we we officially place Mr Pink (and his pseudonym frank the tank) into the 'can't be helped' bin?

Wow really??? Klopp didn’t publicly criticize his own player? Ahh he must be class so... not gonna get into the reasons why Klopp wouldn’t say that one of his players is ****, if you don’t know, reckon you’re the one that needs help, pal..

Also for the record, I don’t blame Lovren for the defeat, just think it was yet another ****e performance from him.. everyone else had a bad game too..

[Buzzo]

Lovren started playing Prem matches in October and November - he started at home versus Leicester, Spurs and City and away at Villa and Palace. We won them all. I haven't checked non EPL matches.

You are doing gods work mate, but you are being goaded.

There are elements of the (online) support who need to chuck someone under the bus after a bad result.

Haters gonna hate.

[greenturnip]

Lovren started playing Prem matches in October and November - he started at home versus Leicester, Spurs and City and away at Villa and Palace. We won them all. I haven't checked non EPL matches.

[SB]

I shouldn’t but

[Myo]

So since Klopp has stated

"If anyone blames Dejan Lovren for our defeat, I can't help these people..."

can we we officially place Mr Pink (and his pseudonym frank the tank) into the 'can't be helped' bin?

[frank the tank]

I think Lovren did well for us earlier in the season - but as Rich says, he has to get up to speed and can't run cold. But I think he also spooked the other defenders...

When did he do well for us earlier in the season?? What game??

[greenturnip]

I think Lovren did well for us earlier in the season - but as Rich says, he has to get up to speed and can't run cold. But I think he also spooked the other defenders...

[Rich]

What I would say about Lovren, he was really crap against Watford - and he's one of them players that needs a run to show his *best* form.

Saturday was a ****show because he was bullied by Deeney and those players around him affect by Dejan's lack of composure and game time.

[Yozza]

'Dejan is an outstanding centre-half'

Liverpool's Premier League defeat at Watford came with Dejan Lovren at the heart of defence in place of Joe Gomez. Klopp, though dismissed the idea this had a bearing on the result.

"If anyone blames Dejan Lovren for our defeat, I can't help these people," said Klopp. "It was a massive challenge for Dejan to play against Troy Deeney. Joe Gomez has had similar problems.

"Both Dejan and Joe have played sensational games for us in this position. Fitness and rhythm is the most difficult to get in professional football. Dejan is an outstanding centre-half.

"If you can tell me one player from Saturday that played at his normal level, I would be surprised."

[Mr Pink]

Mr Pink = Frank the tank (with a vpn)

[frank the tank]

Mr Pink = Frank the tank (with a vpn)

[frank the tank]

Agreed. Today was not just due to Lovren. However, the reason people are being harsh on him is that everyone else has credit in the bank due to past performances. Lovren doesnt.

[peekay]

Pretty sure the whole team, including the whole defence had a stinker.

But you know, those with an agenda just love to keep pushing it.

If your self righteous sagery makes you happy, fill your boots.

Agreed. Today was not just due to Lovren. However, the reason people are being harsh on him is that everyone else has credit in the bank due to past performances. Lovren doesnt.

[Myo]

Mr Pink = Frank the tank (with a vpn)