How do you rate the transfer window for LFC?

[Liverpool]

It's a transfer window that left us better now and better in the future. We did at least as well as all our direct rivals with the possible exception of United.

We have the most exciting forward line in the division. No idea how people can be so down on it.

I was thinking today whats the better 11 (and squad in general) the current squad or 13/14 team. I'm edging towards the current.

[Chris]

It was alright, decent whatever you want to call it. Salah is amazing and now we've quite clearly got the best attack in the country and it wont and isn't falling apart when someone is missing unlike last season. Midfield is fine.

Defensively we are a Matip injury away from being in a pickle. Our defensive record with him is actually very good, I think he's extremely underrated. Last season we conceded just 24 in the 27 league games he started, we conceded 18 in the 11 he didn't which is grim. So it's a shame we couldn't get someone of his class in or maybe even better in Dijk's case. So yeah basically can't afford for him to be injured till January at least really which is a disappointing position to be in when we supposedly had 150m to spend yesterday.

Keita is just ****ing ridiculous and I have no idea how we've managed to pull this off! But he's still a Leipzig player! Next summer's window is already a 10/10 now though even if every other player leaves, that transfer is a massive game changer.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Robertson not first team quality?

I never said he was not good enough to play in the first team, but I do think we only bought one obvious upgrade to the first team and the other three are players with potential who may turn out to be upgrades as they gain more experience.

What I said was

We brought in genuine quality for one position that badly needed it, and we brought in three other players who are a combination of future potential that is currently good enough for first team action.

So I think Robertson is what I called him. A player with potential who is also good enough to play in the first team right now. Is not a knock on the guy, I just don't know how good he is yet, but what he showed in his first game for us was very promising indeed.

[Assassin]

Robertson was an absolute steal at £8 mill, plus we got a free midfielder with him

[Mark79]

It was just a comment to the thread topic in general and not your post per se.

He's definitely up to standard though. We'll need another attacking player next year IMO (to replace Phil).

My bad

Yeah, I hope we try again for Lemar to replace Phil.

[memzey]

I never said he was not good enough to play in the first team, but I do think we only bought one obvious upgrade to the first team and the other three are players with potential who may turn out to be upgrades as they gain more experience.

What I said was






So I think Robertson is what I called him. A player with potential who is also good enough to play in the first team right now. Is not a knock on the guy, I just don't know how good he is yet, but what he showed in his first game for us was very promising indeed.

Gotcha

[Charly]

Im gonna have to give a 5. not counting Kieta. Mainly because a CB was my main concern by a huge margin. That stability could have turned us into worldbeaters.

If vvd had signed I would have given it a ten, no doubts.

[RedReet]

I asked recently what Klopp's net spend was like at Dortmund, so found this quite interesting. Not sure how accurate it is, my brother forwarded it on from an LFC Facebook page...

Just want to write a little about Jurgen Klopp, because I think we've already begun to take him for granted. A few of the things I've seen written today castigating him are not only factually way off the mark, but missing the point entirely as to what makes him a great manager and the perfect antidote to the spend-wildly-and-defend-conservatively philosophy - the Mourinho philosophy - that many here seem to find compelling.
Klopp took over Dortmund 3 years after they had almost gone bust and only been saved by their fans. The year he joined they had finished 13th, and were very much in the doldrums. They had no money. Klopp was tasked with building a team on peanuts, promoting youth players and scouting for bargains in markets that were still untapped. He bought players from provincial Germany, Japan, Chile, Poland. He was given the smallest wage budget in the clubs modern history to work with too.
In his first season (08-09), his big buy was Subotic, a defender from Mainz. He cost 3.5 million, money Dortmund did not have, so he sold their top scorer the previous season, Petric, for a cash (5m) + Mohamed Zidan deal. So, he gets a defender and forward he had previously coached, made a cash profit, and not affected his tiny wage budget. He then buys two right backs (Lee Young Pyo from Spurs among them), a Brazilian centre half, and Hajnal, a Hungarian international midfielder. He also signed Kevin Prince Boateng on loan, and all of it for about 10 million quid. Dortmund fans weren't impressed; they'd seen their top scorer leave and a bunch of bodies and rejects replace him, and not a striker signed. His first year they finished 6th, and just missed out on Europe, for a net spend of way less than a million, and within even his paltry budgets.
The next season (09-10) begins with him letting their best player, and club legend, Alex Frei go for 3.5 million. Fans are again bewildered. With that money they buy a teenage Mat Hummels (250k) and a striker nobody heard of from Chile, Lucas Barrios (3.2m). Other incomings include two future German internationals, Sven Bender and Kevin Grosskreutz, for a million between them, and Rangelov, a Bulgarian international striker, who cost 750k. Klopp makes a profit of 3 million this season. Dortmund come 5th. Barrios top scores with 19.
10-11, Klopp buys Lewandowski, Kagawa, and the man who would be right back for the next 7 seasons, Lukacz Piszczek, for 4 million between them. They arrive from Poland, Japan, and Bundesliga 2 respectively. He also promotes Mario Gotze to the first team. 11 of the previous seasons first team squad are released, transferred, or loaned. He reduces the wage budget by 10%. Makes a profit of over 1.5 million. Dortmund win the league by 7 points. Barrios top scores again. Gotze makes 12 assists in his debut season.
11-12. Klopp strengthens midfield with Gundogan (Nurnberg) and Perisic (Brugge), who each cost 4.2 million. This expenditure is offset by the sale of youth product Nuri Sahin to Madrid. He also brings in youth prospects from Australia (Amini) and BL3 (Löwe). Net expenditure is less than 500k. Lewandowski takes over from Barrios and scores 20. League is won by 8.
12-13. The sales of Kagawa, Perisic and Barrios for a combined 30 million facilitates the purchase of Reus for 13. Reus had been let go by Klopp when he first joined Dortmund, but made a name for himself at nearby Moenchengladbach. Sahin returns for for 1m to replace Kagawa, and Klopp again invests in youth too; German u-21 forwards Bittencourt and Schreiber arrive for 5 million between them. Dortmund finish a distant second to all conquering Bayern, with Lewandowski scoring 24. Dortmund are also beaten in the CL final. They have a net spend of -5 million.
13-14. Gotze joins Guardiola at Bayern for 33 million after going public with his desire to leave. With the proceeds Klopp convinces Mkhitaryan to join Dortmund ahead of Liverpool (23 million) and also buys Aubameyang from St Etienne (7 million). His other major purchase is Sokratis, a Greek centre half, for 6.5 million. Net spend is 3 million. Dortmund finish behind a record breaking Bayern, who win 19 in a row and don't lose for 31, wrapping up the league with 8 games left. Lewandowski top scores again with 20.
14-15. Klopp's most trying window. Under pressure from Bayern's hegemony and their colossal spending and immense wage budget, a cold, hard, fact further reinforced when Lewandowski leaves for Bayern on a free. He is ineffectually replaced by Ciro Immobile for 15 million. He scores 3, and is injured for large for parts of the season. Klopp spends a combined 40 million to sign Kampl, Ginter, Kagawa and Ramos. It is by far his biggest splurge yet. And it fails badly. His unsettled side finish a very distant 7th, and his net spend? 50 million. Roughly 100 times what it had been for the previous six seasons... Combined. Klopp had tried to do a Bayern on a Dortmund budget and it had failed miserably. He had felt compelled to buy, to fatten out his squad to compete, and had his worst season since leaving Mainz as a result. Dortmund had been bottom before Christmas, and only gotten out of the relegation zone on match day 22. A strong end finish to the season ensued, and Klopp announced his intent to resign when European football was confirmed in the last week of April.
So this is what we have with Herr Klopp. A man man who took a zombie club from 13th to back-to-back titles by spending about a million net in 6 years. Who took them from nowhere to number 3 in Europe. And a man who just once succumbed to the idea that he needed to "spend" just to show he could, and saw it ruin almost everything he had built.
So if you ask me, this is why Klopp isn't interested in simply collecting an interchangeable pod of mercenaries to "fatten up" the squad. He wants to leave a mark, create a legacy. And he'd prefer to have a carefully selected squad of players he feels he can work with to achieve this. I, for one, am extremely glad he's our manager. He's a man with a vision, unlike many others, and I hope he gets to fulfill to at Anfield.

[BG1973]

That's excellent, thanks for that.

[baitman]

ok, now we have sorted the coutinho issue [for now]...

how did the tranny window go.

so the purpose is surely to strengthen the team and address our shortcomings.

it was blatantly obvious we are defensively weak and we needed a quality CB and leader.
to only have the one option is a poor strategy and we have been left looking like amateurs. again. there should have been a decent back up who could have been an option if needed through injury or rotation. BAD.

yes, we did sign a quality winger, a decent back up winger who can also fill in elsewhere. we also signed a decent LB who should become a first team regular as the season progresses. we also signed a good young CF who will get games and be a good option from the bench. GOOD.

the keita signing is also a fantastic bonus but its not really relevant to this coming season so i will leave that out of the equation for this window.

6.5/10

[Snigger]

VVD would have been ace but I don't think he would have solved our defensive woes as they are imo systemic not player weakness. Decent window for me - robbed Chelsea of their up and coming star and took the Ox off them as well, Salah and Robertson are good signings and Keita in the bag for next summer. 7/10

[SB]

Great read RedReet. Thanks.

[Fosterbloke]

In the first half of the season we conceded 21 goals in 19 games are second in the league.

In the second half of the season we conceded 21 goals in 19 games and finished fourth.

Where do you think we should strengthen first?

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[SB]

In the first half of the season we conceded 21 goals in 19 games are second in the league.

In the second half of the season we conceded 21 goals in 19 games and finished fourth.

Where do you think we should strengthen first?

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Obviously the strikers weren't scoring enough to compensate for a shaky defence so improve the attackers as we've done.

[brightred]

I went for 7.

Guess I'm a glass half full type of guy.