Arne Slot

[SB]

I’d rather have an interim solution now. The damage continuing with Slot for another 3 months could do for our chances of CL qualification, not to mention squad morale, mean we need a change sooner rather than later imo.

Yeah I’m sick of this **** too & the damage he’s doing to the Academy pathways is the final straw.

[badpiggy]

This whole direct Dutch thing isn't working for me as an excuse. Their directness is much more like "You look fatter than the last time I saw you" or saying no to minor inconveniences because it just doesn't suit them or saying to visitors that they'd like them to leave. Not whatever the **** Slot is vomiting out.

[Rich]

The guy is awful. He’s anti LFC. Boot him out.

[Exiled_red]

I'm not a big fan of sacking managers, and his achievements last season and his handling of the Jota situation in the summer deserve our respect. The reality of the situation at present is we aren't going to make the top 5 unless something drastic changes, in the transfer window that drastic change could have been bringing in a couple of big players, the only thing left we can do to make a drastic change would be changing manager, if we don't do that we are just hoping things are going to get better or we accept we aren't making top 5.

[Slinky Skills]

[ame]https://twitter.com/i/status/2021350970630742308[/ame]

[Norbs]

He's really hung up about Klopp, maybe he's jealous as he doesn't hide it well. Short memory and seems to forget rhat Klopp got the Kop singing his name before he came and, in the mostpart, Klopp has respectfully taken a big step back from the club.

Perhaps he should be more introspective here, just for a moment. His quiet approach seems to hide a rather large ego

[kingfunk]

That’s a fair and honest answer from him. He doesn’t control his own future, those decisions aren’t his to make. All he can point to is what’s happened before, and recently, when a similar situation didn’t affect the manager’s position. Of course that doesn’t guarantee anything, but he is correct in what he’s saying.

I understand that frustration toward him is growing, but it feels like people are now scrutinising every small detail just to fit a particular narrative. Creating an even more toxic atmosphere around the club is not going to help anyone, whether that is the players, the staff, or the supporters.

Yes, this season has been an cluster**** and far from what we expected. But there is still a lot to play for, theoretically a top four finish, the FA Cup, and the Champions League. As Virgil said, it could still turn into a great season.

We are not going to sack Arne before the summer, so the best thing we can do as supporters is stay as positive as possible.

[5europeancups]

Liverpool have been painful to watch in the league all season because we have been found out with the low block against us.

This has not yet been clearly addressed after seven months which is really worrying because it makes you feel that we dont have the creativity within the coaching setup to trouble shoot this problem. All our good results have come against teams which have opened themselves up in order to attack us, and I think all the negative results have seriously impacted the confidence of the players.
Normally I would have expected us to score a second goal after the Dom master blaster on Sunday because City would have to attack us, but we were so nervous...

The team are nervous in the Premier League.

However I would not be at all surprised if we won the Champions league .

Attacking wise if we get it right we are lethal.

Even if we did so I think Arne has to go. We are like Spurs under Postocoglou at the moment...

Potentially very good , but very fragile.

[Doc_Piptorious]

That’s a fair and honest answer from him. He doesn’t control his own future, those decisions aren’t his to make. All he can point to is what’s happened before, and recently, when a similar situation didn’t affect the manager’s position. Of course that doesn’t guarantee anything, but he is correct in what he’s saying.

I understand that frustration toward him is growing, but it feels like people are now scrutinising every small detail just to fit a particular narrative. Creating an even more toxic atmosphere around the club is not going to help anyone, whether that is the players, the staff, or the supporters.

Yes, this season has been an cluster**** and far from what we expected. But there is still a lot to play for, theoretically a top four finish, the FA Cup, and the Champions League. As Virgil said, it could still turn into a great season.

We are not going to sack Arne before the summer, so the best thing we can do as supporters is stay as positive as possible.

Here, here

Liverpool have been painful to watch in the league all season because we have been found out with the low block against us.

This has not yet been clearly addressed after seven months which is really worrying because it makes you feel that we dont have the creativity within the coaching setup to trouble shoot this problem. All our good results have come against teams which have opened themselves up in order to attack us, and I think all the negative results have seriously impacted the confidence of the players.
Normally I would have expected us to score a second goal after the Dom master blaster on Sunday because City would have to attack us, but we were so nervous...

The team are nervous in the Premier League.

However I would not be at all surprised if we won the Champions league .

Attacking wise if we get it right we are lethal.

Even if we did so I think Arne has to go. We are like Spurs under Postocoglou at the moment...

Potentially very good , but very fragile.

Am very much in the same boat regarding the CL. It for the most part is suiting us this season.

[Buzzo]

This is quite revealing, and hard to deny.

[ame]https://twitter.com/espnuk/status/2021237722866757651[/ame]

[Cerbie]

Liverpool have been painful to watch in the league all season because we have been found out with the low block against us.

This has not yet been clearly addressed after seven months which is really worrying because it makes you feel that we dont have the creativity within the coaching setup to trouble shoot this problem. All our good results have come against teams which have opened themselves up in order to attack us, and I think all the negative results have seriously impacted the confidence of the players.
Normally I would have expected us to score a second goal after the Dom master blaster on Sunday because City would have to attack us, but we were so nervous...

The team are nervous in the Premier League.

However I would not be at all surprised if we won the Champions league .

Attacking wise if we get it right we are lethal.

Even if we did so I think Arne has to go. We are like Spurs under Postocoglou at the moment...

Potentially very good , but very fragile.

We have seen glimpses of fast attacking football this season, so the team still has the ability to move the ball front to back rapidly.

Unfortunately they are coached to retain possession as much as possible. The low block works well when we choose to play pedestrain crab football with little to no space to pass into in the final third - that's why teams do it FFS!

Gakpo and Mo trying to cut inside into a conjested area every time is like Einstein's definition of insanity. The number of times Gakpo has ignored Kerkez and Hugo's good early runs is ridiculous. Mo will always back himself to score first, but his form this season doesn't support that approach.

Konate went through a bad spell, but seems to have returned from his compassionate leave back to his best. Kerkez seems to have found his groove defensively. Virgil is past his best pace wise, but still elite level. It's Slot's approach to the injuries at RB that have really compromised our performances. Dom leads the press in midfield and has Kuyt levels of energy to the final whistle. Using him at RB reduces our midfield effectiveness combined with allowing Grav to play less of a pure DM role has caused that defensive fragility imho.

[Doc_Piptorious]

This is quite revealing, and hard to deny.

https://twitter.com/espnuk/status/2021237722866757651

Think there is a narrative being pushed regarding Slot too though. Some of what gets said may well be true but at the same time if we were flying would any of us really give a toss about Morton, Ramsay or any of the other young players or would we simply be saying they are not good enough.


End of the day the coach gets to decide what players he thinks are good enough or not good enough. He may not always be proven correct on that, but it is his choice.

A new coach could come in tomorrow and not fancy playing the same players, what then, we then use that as a stick to beat that guy with?


Nah not for me. Results are the measure for me and right now the results this season have Slot teetering on the edge in terms of keeping his job. We finish the league season strong and win silverware, then he keeps his job until at least he shows the team is strong again next season.

He and the team finishes this season limping along then the coach is gone and a number of underperfroming players would need to be looked at as well.


The big elephant in the room is who do we bring in to replace him if he goes in the summer. Yes lots of managers would like to be the gaffer at Liverpool FC but we need the right guy.

Lots say Alonso but also complain about Slot's slower style of play, well Alonso brings that with him and Alonso's style of play at Leverkusen would need quite the rebuild to replicate imo.

Said it before but there is a lack of obvious outstanding managers out there that might be gettable.

Me I would hope for someone like Simone Inzaghi as he is tactically flexible, known for being an excellent man manager and known for getting more out of players, is a great age for a coach to be coming into a huge job, but at the same time he would be a risk.

Looking around the European leagues, it is quite difficult to see anyone that you look at and say "yeah he is as close as it comes to a cannot fail option" and the guys that look really good tend to be guys coming towards the ends of their careers whereas I think we need a guy that is of an age where he can stay long enough to build and also be of an age where the strains and stresses of a job like at LFC might be easier to take.


The lazy answer is of course get Klopp back, but he left for a reason. He was burnt out and needed to step away. He is that bit older now and simply may not fancy another tilt at it. Plus managers that return to clubs they were a success at are rarely even close to being as good second time around, probably due to the game moving on a bit even if the time span is small.

[Buzzo]

I think the narrative existed before the end of last season. Slot used the no signings excuse to flog a smallish, but highly motivated and well drilled group of players to deliver us a title. That was at the time quite unusual and it seemed strange how he treated some of the players, but we won the Leavue so to an extent it was moot. They did run out of gas they ran out of ideas and the team was beginning to be found out come March - but we had won enough games to win the title.

It’s impossible to imagine the squad Slot wants. He simply does not seem to know how to bring players on and use them in games. When we put out a second string team they look **** because none of them have played enough. We criticise Pep because he had all the riches, but the one thing he does seem able to do (as did Klopp) is keep fringe players involved and motivated.

The other thing that is slightly concerning with Slot is that by his own admission this is the first challenging run in his career. He said he can’t recall ever losing more than 2 games in a row before.

There is no muscle memory for him in how to turn this around.

I like Arne, but I think we have seen a few rough edges and elements of inexperience this season. Ironically for him he is judged to the incredibly high standard he set last season. He has shown a lack of ability to manage some of these narratives such as young or fringe players that do feed the wider narrative of underperformance.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I think the narrative existed before the end of last season. Slot used the no signings excuse to flog a smallish, but highly motivated and well drilled group of players to deliver us a title. That was at the time quite unusual and it seemed strange how he treated some of the players, but we won the Leavue so to an extent it was moot. They did run out of gas they ran out of ideas and the team was beginning to be found out come March - but we had won enough games to win the title.

It’s impossible to imagine the squad Slot wants. He simply does not seem to know how to bring players on and use them in games. When we put out a second string team they look **** because none of them have played enough. We criticise Pep because he had all the riches, but the one thing he does seem able to do (as did Klopp) is keep fringe players involved and motivated.

The other thing that is slightly concerning with Slot is that by his own admission this is the first challenging run in his career. He said he can’t recall ever losing more than 2 games in a row before.

There is no muscle memory for him in how to turn this around.

I like Arne, but I think we have seen a few rough edges and elements of inexperience this season. Ironically for him he is judged to the incredibly high standard he set last season. He has shown a lack of ability to manage some of these narratives such as young or fringe players that do feed the wider narrative of underperformance.

Hard to argue against anything you said there, but at the same time I do feel there is a bit of a narrative, be it media/influencer pushed, that sees every little thing over analysed and anything good that happens on the pitch is down to anyone but Slot but every failure is 100% Slot.


Think at times this feels, from a fanbase pov, one of the most negative and self entitled seasons I can recall. It all feels utterly joyless and that there is a atitude of "I want shiney thing right NOW!!" going on across the fanbase in general. You know the sort of thing we used to mock other fanbases for.

Yes there are plenty of things we can point at and be right in doing so, but at the same time it also feels like each game begins with the hope something goes wrong so Slot can be hammered some more. Not necessarily meaning this site as there can be a bit more balance here at times, more a widespread thing.

It is one poor season (by our standards of course as there are 14 clubs below us in the league plus every club in the lower leagues whose fanbases would love our season) and that's it. We have had runs of many poor to average seasons in a row over the past 30 plus years, so it is baffling me what exactly makes this poor season so different to the ones that we sucked up in the past.

Generally we give a coach a bad season, especially if he did something that bought a lot of credit, but this season as soon as the wheels came off early on it was abaondone ship straight away rather than all hands to the pumps.

And none of that is me saying Slot will 100% get it right or that he 100% needs another season or whatever, it is just me musing aloud about the lack of resolve/positivity/hope that things will in time get better and that this season is just a storm we need to weather, something that will make us stronger for having gone through it and maybe something that makes us appreciate the good times a bit more because we never know when leaner times are about to hit.

[Cerbie]

Nah not for me. Results are the measure for me and right now the results this season have Slot teetering on the edge in terms of keeping his job. We finish the league season strong and win silverware, then he keeps his job until at least he shows the team is strong again next season.

If he manages to fluke the CL the season (unlikely with the number of Prem teams in the knockouts) maybe he gets a shot at next season, but for me the club needs to be more decisive.

The approach you are suggesting gettings us an FA Cup, but maybe not CL would be enough to be patient. In that scenario we are stuck with Thursday night football and losing at least another season in transition if we fire him midway through next season. Without CL we can't attract top talent on or off the pitch and the downward cycle continues.

For me Slot needs to go asap, a new manager bounce of a couple of games now could get us into the top 5 and then we may kick on.

Slot is averaging 1.56 pts a game for the season at the moment, keep that level up and we are looking to finish on 59 points. It is 1.2 points per game for the last 20 games. The last time we finished on less than 60 points was 11-12, and that got Kenny the bullet.