Jamie Carragher

[baitman]

good game

cheers brucie

[MrMichael]

So, question now is, with the exception of Bootroom, who would think about giving Jamie another year?

Obviously we'd want to cut that wage significantly to reflect what would only be a backup position, but realistically, are we going to have a better 4th choice CB next season than him? He brings us experience, leadership, organisation and total 100% commitment to the cause. Not saying he should be in the first XI, but if he feels he has the energy for it and is willing to do what Sami did (parallels there, how long were people saying his legs had gone for?) and stay around to help us when needed?

We need to do some surgery to that defence, Coates almost definitely and very possibly Skrtel too we might want to bring in replacements for, personally in an entirely unsentimental way I can see us benefiting from some consistency and keeping Carra on.

[-V-]

Skrtle Agger Carra and 1 more. If only we could find a good young cb who wouldnt mind being draftes in slowly. Good being the key word. Can Martin Kelly ever make it at CB???

[Corndog]

I didn't think carra still had these sorts of performances in him, but over the last 3 games he has proved me wrong. However long term we obviously need others and at a reported 90k a week it's not worth it for a squad player but if we could negotiate a year extension for alot less then why not keep him on.

[Darkon]

I would defo keep Carra on for another season if he wants to, and at reduced wages of course. He can still bring a lot to the club, besides som good performances, he has experience, is a model professional and not least carries the club spirit/culture with him.

No brainer for me really.

[Gingawaria]

I have to hold my hands up as one of the people who thought he was finished. His last 2 games have proven me completely wrong. He might not have the legs any more (did he ever really have them?), but his positional awareness and his organizational skills are second to none.

[cream]

Saying that though, skrtel was good and we shipped goals, carra has been good and we still ship goals. Where does the problem lie ?

[Captain Stu]

Against Arsenal and Citeh, Carragher was flawless. I hold my hands up - I thought he'd be a liability but he was brilliant.

[RichC]

Poor individual decisions have cost us dear this season, Agger, Skrtel and Coates have all been culpable (can't remember with Carra) as have our keepers both Reina and Jones.

Need to work on the defensive members keeping their concentration for the full 90 minutes which seems to be an issue this season.

[Captain Stu]

Poor individual decisions have cost us dear this season, Agger, Skrtel and Coates have all been culpable (can't remember with Carra) as have our keepers both Reina and Jones.

Need to work on the defensive members keeping their concentration for the full 90 minutes which seems to be an issue this season.

[The Birdman]

He's not good enough, an indian summer of a couple games isn't the 2nd coming of Carra the saviour.
It's not a criticism for the sake of it but he is 34, you don't get into the top 4 or even the top 6 relying on 34/35 year olds. Ferdinand at Utd is an exception but he has always been and still is now streets ahead of Carra as a defender and he plays in a much better team.

Skrtel isn't good enough either and Agger is borderline, as fans we're blinkered into thinking all our players are amazing.
Reina/Skrtel/Carra/Agger have been the goalkeeper and centre backs when we've finished 6th/7th/8th or wherever in whatever order.
Not good enough.

Take Man City's goals yesterday, Carra is too far off Aguero because he's frightened to get tight, Agger has dropped too deep which you do when you don't trust the person you're playing alongside, he then loses Dzeko the same way RvP lost him the other week.

Reina's mistake is inexcusable, just bollocks **** decision making.

As Gary Neville so rightly put it, individual mistakes aren't brought on by bad coaching they're either bad players or mentally weak players.

We need to sign at least 2 centre backs in the summer.
And a left back.

And I wouldn't be fussed if we lost Reina as well. The games he makes mistakes in and costs us far outweigh the ones he keeps us in with amazing saves.
Btw, when was the last time he saved a penalty? he saved them all the time in his 1st 2 years

[Sarb]

He's not good enough, an indian summer of a couple games isn't the 2nd coming of Carra the saviour.
It's not a criticism for the sake of it but he is 34, you don't get into the top 4 or even the top 6 relying on 34/35 year olds. Ferdinand at Utd is an exception but he has always been and still is now streets ahead of Carra as a defender and he plays in a much better team.

Skrtel isn't good enough either and Agger is borderline, as fans we're blinkered into thinking all our players are amazing.
Reina/Skrtel/Carra/Agger have been the goalkeeper and centre backs when we've finished 6th/7th/8th or wherever in whatever order.
Not good enough.

Take Man City's goals yesterday, Carra is too far off Aguero because he's frightened to get tight, Agger has dropped too deep which you do when you don't trust the person you're playing alongside, he then loses Dzeko the same way RvP lost him the other week.

Reina's mistake is inexcusable, just bollocks **** decision making.

As Gary Neville so rightly put it, individual mistakes aren't brought on by bad coaching they're either bad players or mentally weak players.

We need to sign at least 2 centre backs in the summer.
And a left back.

And I wouldn't be fussed if we lost Reina as well. The games he makes mistakes in and costs us far outweigh the ones he keeps us in with amazing saves.
Btw, when was the last time he saved a penalty? he saved them all the time in his 1st 2 years

Someone tweeted earlier that Reina's mistakes this season have cost us 14 points. Don't know how accurate that is, but if true is a lot

Hate agreeing with Neville but he is right (and a great pundit too)

You are pretty much right on Agger/Skrtel and Reina. I don't think Agger is anywhere near the best centre back in Europe. His concentration levels are hit and miss and positionally he is not very disciplined. So disappointed at Aguero's equaliser. So deflating for the team too

[RedReet]

Saying that though, skrtel was good and we shipped goals, carra has been good and we still ship goals. Where does the problem lie ?

Since we played United at home in September, we have kept 7 clean sheets from 9 at home. I don’t think our defensive problems are as bad as some make out, but far too many individual mistakes are costing us.

[RedReet]

He's not good enough, an indian summer of a couple games isn't the 2nd coming of Carra the saviour.
It's not a criticism for the sake of it but he is 34, you don't get into the top 4 or even the top 6 relying on 34/35 year olds. Ferdinand at Utd is an exception but he has always been and still is now streets ahead of Carra as a defender and he plays in a much better team.

Skrtel isn't good enough either and Agger is borderline, as fans we're blinkered into thinking all our players are amazing.
Reina/Skrtel/Carra/Agger have been the goalkeeper and centre backs when we've finished 6th/7th/8th or wherever in whatever order.
Not good enough.

Take Man City's goals yesterday, Carra is too far off Aguero because he's frightened to get tight, Agger has dropped too deep which you do when you don't trust the person you're playing alongside, he then loses Dzeko the same way RvP lost him the other week.

Reina's mistake is inexcusable, just bollocks **** decision making.

As Gary Neville so rightly put it, individual mistakes aren't brought on by bad coaching they're either bad players or mentally weak players.

We need to sign at least 2 centre backs in the summer.
And a left back.

And I wouldn't be fussed if we lost Reina as well. The games he makes mistakes in and costs us far outweigh the ones he keeps us in with amazing saves.
Btw, when was the last time he saved a penalty? he saved them all the time in his 1st 2 years

Absolute nonsense IMO.

For a start we are not relying on Carragher and although you’ve already mentioned Ferdinand a few others come to mind such as Gallas, Sol Campbell or Steve Bruce so that’s clearly not true.

Your logic that our poor league finishes is an accurate reflection of their ability is also ridiculous as our defensive record was 3rd best in two of those years and 5th best the years we finished 6th, so that would suggest the problem isn’t with our defence.

You’re right we might have to buy two new CB’s in the summer because if the bigger clubs come calling again, who’d be surprised if two of our better players left?

I suppose I should be too surprised after some of the crap written about Suarez and Gerrard on here after a few poor performances, but to rip out the core of our defence and start from scratch after a couple of individual errors just smacks of knee-jerk to me.

[danperkins]

Carragher coming in and being used sparingly for his experience and organising.. is a good option. He has his limitations and won't get many back to back games.. but he has done well since coming in IMO.

We do need another quality CB though.